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The om Hartmann Program - Feb 25 2008

By Louise Hartmann

 

Hour One - Guest: Kathryn Joyce www.thenation.com/doc/20080303/joyce Topic: Demographic Winter and the Christian Right...Christian conservatives predict a looming catastrophe as birthrates fall in Europe and Muslim immigration rises.
Guest: Larisa Alexandrovna www.rawstory.com Topic: Reaction to CBS 60 Minutes finally airing the Siegelman piece last night

 

Hour Two - Guest: Paul Shapiro with The Humane Society http://www.hsus.org & Lene Johansen www.cei.org Topic: A rousing 3 way debate - The Politics Behind Beef Recall Revealed

 

Hour Three - Guest: Al Regnery  Topic - His new book - Upstream: The Ascendance of American Conservatism

Comments

(17)

On Nader's Candidacy

you get what you are willing to defend.

Gee, I wonder what THESE LOBBYISTS DEFEND?

Lobbyists on the ’08 payroll

& who wouldn't have creepy lobbyists snivelling & strutting around their government?

RALPH NADER.

yup. 'you dance with the one who brung ya, " Molly said...

& NADER HAD NOTHING to do with the misery coming home to roost. It was social apathy & propaganda-supported corruption.
"Touched by a Republican": "Prosecutor: Siegelman, Scrushy may be obstructing justice"
:p Blame the Messenger?

at the very least, have the decency to respect a man who has spent decades doing your hard work for you.

When will the US electorate actually vote for itself?
... when they stop letting their corporate media tell them THEY'VE ALREADY WON THE REVOLUTION for UNIVERSAL HUMAN RIGHTS.

because somehow, too many people seem to think, 'getting by' in the World means allying themselves with a powerful corporation to protect them from the Big Scary World.

Its a Big Ugly World, because we've no stomach to stand with Determined Pacifism & prevent it.

what's the WORST THING they say about Nader?
that's he's smart & egotistical.
Ah, maybe you're being TOLD THAT? He's smart. & he's confident.

gee, why would they *tell you* he's something negative?

BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 PARTIES & even a corporation can figure out that after you suck one teat dry, you move on to the next...
Three makes it harder to rig the game.

"corruption is why we win"

on Determined Pacifism & "Election Madness" Howard Zinn

BASICALLY? *every corrupt corporation is set against Nader* ...& people are too afraid or propagandized to see it. THUS BOTH parties have vested interest in making his candidacy the solution you'll never have.

~~~

"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"

Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...

"Spot On" (a hartmann)

jj Gudat, Thanks Blueberry, I get tired of feeling alone out here!

I voted for Gore, I volunteered for Kerry in three states, and donated; I donated to Edwards, and worked for him; I JUST CAN'T in good consciense, vote for either Hillary or Obama! It's based on the research I've done and what I've learned about both of them, not personality, gender or race.
I don't believe in Thom's idea, that 'elected officials will get in front of the parade'. My experience has been that they'll put up road blocks and detours!

I don't believe you should vote for a candidate, who represents policey, that's against your own best interest! Then after their elected, they claim this mandate! We're all left scratching our heads, saying 'I didn't vote for that'. Great example is the 06' election, we donated and worked for ending the war, and Impeachment! Pelosi, claimed it was for her 100 day thing! Who's screwed???

**Country Before Party**

I've stopped giving to ANY organization, after Move-On in 04' gave 65k to Bill Nelson (one of the 19 that voted FOR cloture on Alito), I don't trust any of them!! I got conned again, by AAR into giving during the 06' push for the majority into giving to what they called, 'Progressive Candidates'; we gave to McClaskey (Mo.), Webb (Va), Casey (Pa.) all won! And then voted like 'Blue-Dogs, with Red Fleas'!! 

Yes, I'm ready for a third, and fourth, and fifth! Party!! Instant Run-Off Elections!

can you feel the OPPRESSION???

Stacy - talking for Lionel, pointed out that 'phony' patriotism is being supported.  Wearing pins, stickers and magnets.    Losing administrators due to being too open on religion and not forcing christian only agendas.  

I tried selling bracelets to support out-reach programs for Vets and those coming home with PTSD.  I couldn't sell any.   I sent out sites for helmets liners.  I sent out sites for VOTEVETS.ORG because of helmet contract being awarded after the company paid a fine for making below quality helmets.

People do not want to 'hear' about the war!   The only stuff I receive from friends (other then those I have political dealings with)  is the jingoism nationalism stuff.   Don't think - just blindly believe! 

I must say that Air America, informing people of the war, is a rarity!   How scary is that???

The worst day in my life, besides family stuff, was the start of the Iraq attack - Shock & Awe.  It has replaced the day President Kennedy died.   When I heard the news report - as if it were the Bush outlet speaking only of their agenda - it made me feel as if I had been sucker punched.  And it continued.   Hours of 'Bushie' reports.   That was one of the most awful days in US history.
         

because people don't *want to care*

they're too freaking self-centred to want to think or care.

"lalalalalala
Blame the Messenger... I don't want to know...
lalalalalala
"

terrifying how easily they just shut it down to avoid the pain of being interested.

"You Can't Make Me": defining culture on the DownSide of PeakOil...

"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"

Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...

Nice, Lore. I agree,

jj Gudat, Just read an article in The Populist Progressive newspaper I get, by Jim Hightower.
Tittled: Cashing in on America, it's about a Roger Chapin, " a San Diego business operator with big-name Republican connections" who started up several charities, 'for Veterans'. Except him and his friends got all the money! One being Tommy Franks, who got $100k for 'use of his name'.

Makes you want to vomit, esspecially if you are a disabled vet!

The reasons you state are why I won't watch Katie Curick on CBS. The day (night) there the 'Shock & Awe' started Katie was all excited about how great it was! I awitched stations, and won't allow her face on a TV in my home since! There's nothing Great, or her words: "awesome" about bombing the crap out of a civilian defensless population!

On Nader's candidacy

I appreciate Thom's comments on this subject.

This is really tiresome.  We are adults.  We can vote or not vote for whomever we wish.  Anyone who wants to run for the Presidency should be able to do so.  Voters can do the calculations and decide if they want to "throw their vote away," either on a mainstream candidate that won't make the changes we wish to see or on a third-party candidate who has no chance of winning.  The Nader-haters should remember it is the voters who decide where their vote goes.

And don't tell me that Nader tricks people into voting for him; what are any candidate's campaign ads for anyway?

Nader warned us in the late 90s that their was little substantial difference between the major parties and it has been shocking to see how his words have been borne out  as the Democrats have caved to or empowered Bush again and again.  Nader looks like a prophet.  Mike Gravel pointed out in an
interview with Mike Papantonio this weekend that the corporate money that corrupted the Republicans is now flowing to the Democrats.  Can we see real change under these circumstances?  Will the money corrupt Dems too?  Follow the money and look out!

Let him or anyone else run.   Let the voters decide.  Let the positives and the negatives of each party and each candidate be aired.  This is a different time and different calculations may drive our

voting decisions but it's a good thing to have more choices and Democrats are foolish to try again to  extinguish the Nader candidacy.  The issues that drive it are real and Democrats would be better served to address them.  They might thereby gain some votes. 

Three Cheers!!!

jj Gudat,

I have to pay to hear AirAmerica, on my XM, which I bought into, and pay a monthly fee for, just so I could hear AirAmerica! I's turned OFF! Again. As it has been pretty much for the last two or three weeks! I can't take all the 'Obama this and Obama that, constantly' the jabs at Hillary!

I'm not FOR either of them, but I expected better from Air America, like just a little honestt!

All of Obama's donations have NOT come from small doner's, only 26%! A lot of the rest has come from his BIG Wall Street doners! He was NOT born poor, or even middle-class! Middle-class grandparents don't retire to Hawaii, nor can they afford to send their grandson, to TWO (2) Ivy League Colleges! Obama didn't have an Economic Plan until Feb. 13th!~Why was he running for President before that??

Hillary is NO better! But shouldn't AirAmerica, be telling us the truth about BOTH candidates? Who cares about McCain, is anyone listening to AirAmerica really going to consider voting FOR him??

AAR isn't *available* in Canada on Sirius radio.

seriously.

& not for lack of letters requesting it, either.

Thank G*d for XM.

~~~

"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"

Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...

*** APPLAUSE ***

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> > > Human Rights, if you can keep them.
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:ohh: but I have to ask again, "whoever convinced Americans that the Revolution for Human Rights was over?

Hip-hip-hurrah! Great post for Nader Principles!

Great!

Nader has been objective about the problem for decades and your point regarding his observations in the 1990s about the two chauvinistic lead parties clarify his dependability of understanding of our system!

We are supposed to vote for REPRESENTATION, and that means voting for someone who's a proponent for our individual principles, needs, best interests, ideals, values and so on.  Voting for anything else is detrimental to the whole democratic process and one's own role in it.

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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt

Let's see if I have this STRAIT, Thom; LET THE DYNASTY FIGHT ON

IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT DELUSIONAL.

IT'S ABOUT THE PAYOLA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

Or, is it fear of losing the over 80+ feminist AAR demographic, Thom? WELL?!!!

THE HARTMANN LOGIC: SEIZE DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY. HIS BIG SHRUM IDEA.

If she stays in then more debate rhetoric will actually move the 87% DINO congress to the left as a result of the populous attention and dialog spawned by more COAL INDUSTRY sponsored beauty pageants where matters like THE OCCUPATION and IMPEACHMENT , etc., are out of bounds.
www.truthdig.com/report/print/20070531_repudiation_not_impeachment
www.airamerica.com/ringoffire/node/191#comment-3900
www.airamerica.com/maddow/node/3211/31538#comment-31538

If the hyena calls it a day, for reasons other than the fact that her personal community property bank account can only stand so much SUCKING SOUND for campaign purposes, then the GOP smear machine will have the opportunity to reverse the O-mentum so the ZIG-ZAG EXPRESS McAncient will become competitive in November.
www.expense-management-services.blogspot.com/2008/02/open-question-if-hi...

The Audacity of Hopelessness By FRANK RICH -February 24, 2008

WHEN people one day look back at the remarkable implosion of the Hillary Clinton campaign, they may notice that it both began and ended in the long dark shadow of Iraq. ...

Despite Mrs. Clinton’s valedictory tone at Thursday’s debate, there remains the fear in some quarters that whether through sleights of hand involving superdelegates or bogus delegates from Michigan or Florida, the Clintons might yet game or even steal the nomination. I’m starting to wonder. An operation that has waged political war as incompetently as the Bush administration waged war in Iraq is unlikely to suddenly become smart enough to pull off that duplicitous a “victory.� Besides, after spending $1,200 on Dunkin’ Donuts in January alone, this campaign simply may not have the cash on hand to mount a surge. www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinion/24rich.html?_r=5&oref=login&pagewante...

It's Over www.newsweek.com/id/114725/output/print

  • The fact that if she were actually back on the hill doing her job, more shit could get done, is irrelevant.
  • The fact that the top players in her campaign cant help BHO while they are committed to her LOST CAUSE, is irrelevant.

  • The fact that by continuing the conflict between misogynist fence sitters and militant feminists will broaden cultural divisiveness, is irrelevant.
    www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/02/is_it_over_1.html#alpha

  • The fact that the best minds in DEM political WARFARE continuing to develop maneuvers to attack eachother will feed the Rove machine additional dirt that they may not have imagined, is irrelevant.

  • The fact that 99% of campaign rhetoric NEVER gets implemented, so all the polite mud slinging is just so much hot air, is irrelevant.

  • The fact that if she actually gets the nomination, the likelihood of a GOP VICTORY is significantly increased, is irrelevant. www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html#alpha

  • The fact that the public's attention span for politics is finite and would benefit from a hiatus, is irrelevant.

That's why she has to fatten the pockets of media outlets and advertising agencies while NOT conceding her INEVITABLE defeat until just before the convention, where the SUPER DELEGATES will certainly DO THE RIGHT THING.

BRILLIANT!!!!!!!

HERE'S YOUR SIGN:
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/Y/c/hillary_rambabe.jpg
www.newscopy.org/images/hillary_tango_1.jpg
www.laughmaine.com/Billary%20Clinton.jpg

BTW:

Obama’s Call to Increase the Pentagon’s Budget February 25, 2008

AMY GOODMAN: Obama calling for the unilateral attack on Pakistan, given certain circumstances?

SAMANTHA POWER: It was on the heels of the National Intelligence Estimate, which showed that the al-Qaeda leaders were hanging out in northwestern Pakistan, we're giving Musharraf $1 billion of aid, uncritically, It meant that you can’t allow al-Qaeda’s leadership to persist. ...

Having spent the better part of the last decade with military families he has a sense of just how broken the military is right now, its at the breaking point. Obama has said is that “we’re going to go through the books, because I’m not dependent on federal lobbyists and I’m not dependent on PAC money, we’re going to purge our reliance on obsolete weapons systems that are more about rewarding campaign contributions, rather it's about protecting national security and actually dealing with twenty-first century challenges.�

Even the issues that Sergio de Mello dealt with—ultimately peacekeeping and things that sound innocuous and noble—require soldiers, require, in some cases, police. The United States could actually be supportive of peacekeeping missions, could transport soldiers to Darfur to flesh out that peacekeeping force. The dirty secret of peacekeeping is it requires military force.
www.democracynow.org/2008/2/25/barack_obamas_senior_foreign_policy_advis...

PS:
Want to hear about the latest RFK - Wellstone - JFK Jr RIGHTEOUS ACCIDENTAL DEATH that benefited SKULL & BONES BROTHERS? See this: Biography of UN diplomat Sergio de Mello called Chasing the Flame Sergio Vieira de Mello was the top UN official in Iraq when he died in a truck bombing of the UN’s Baghdad headquarters in August 2003.
www.democracynow.org/2008/2/25/samantha_power_on_chasing_the_flame#trans...

I agree with the premise that there is increased value of having both Nader and McKinney out there. I just wish they would invest in Palast types to route out the GOP voter disenfranchisement system before it gets get up a full head of steam. www.airamerica.com/lionel/node/185#comment-2268

All of the elections supervisors must be vetteted by the other side and the shrub's court packing judges exposed before they start the INDICTMENT BLITZKRIEG on the DEMS in the countless little races being run at the same time.

Remember U.S. Attorney for New Mexico David Iglesias?
www.gregpalast.com/the-firing-of-new-mexico-attorneydavid-iglesias
www.gregpalast.com/space-invaders-five-million-aliens-for-hillary/?print...

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www.gregpalast.com/Podcasting/ThePalastReport/PalastonClout1-11-08.m4a
www.gregpalast.com/give-the-gift-of-impeachment-palast-swag-for-xmas

WHAT ELSE IS NEWS - Bush Holds Up More Than 84 Nominees Over Torture Advocate

On the Senate floor, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) revealed that much of the blame for these stalled nominees lies with the President’s insistence that the torture advocate receive a recess appointment.

According to Reid, in December, he met with the White House and agreed to allow more than 84 of the President’s nominees to go through. Bush, however, insisted that unless the Senate agreed to Bradbury’s recess appointment, “he wouldn’t make a deal.� “It’s Brabury, or nobody,� Bush reportedly told Reid.
www.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/07/bush-brabury-reid
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gzzwHNfZgZK6luaPjSFcvijKUVNAD8ULNA500

Horton on 60 Minutes Segment of DOJ Political Prosecution

www.rawstory.com/news/2007/timeline_don_siegelman_1126.htm
Off the Air in Alabama Feb 25, 2008 www.malcontends.blogspot.com/2008/02/horton-on-60-minutes-segment-of-doj...

Horton writes in reaction to the 60 Mintues piece:

CBS aired its long-awaited feature on the prosecution and imprisonment of former Alabama Governor Don E. Siegelman this evening at 7:00. In a stunning move of censorship, the transmission was blocked across the northern third of Alabama by CBS affiliate WHNT, which is owned by interests of the Bass Family. Those who were in the zone of censorship or who missed it, can catch the whole segment here:
Preview: www.youtube.com/v/oYfS0n6T31I
Full Story: www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml
mp3 http://audio.cbsnews.com/2008/02/24/audio3870587.mp3
Video: www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3870545n

The CBS piece, for which I was repeatedly interviewed, came through on its promise to deliver several additional bombshells. The most significant of these was the disclosure that prosecutors pushed the case forward and secured a conviction relying on evidence that they knew or should have know was false, and that they failed to turnover potentially exculpatory evidence to defense counsel. The accusation was dramatically reinforced by the Justice Department’s failure to offer a denial. It delivered a fairly elaborate version of a “no comment,” and even that came a full twenty-four hours after it had conferred with the prosecutors in question. The gravity of the accusations made and the prosecutors’ failure to deny them further escalates concerns about the treatment of the former Alabama governor.

Republicans Lead the Attack

But the show was dominated by one of 52 former attorneys general from 40 of the 50 states who have called for a Congressional probe of the conduct of the Siegelman case, former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods. He leveled a series of blistering accusations at the Bush Administration’s Justice Department. With the Alabama G.O.P. this evening issuing a near-hysterical statement in which it characterizes the CBS broadcast—before its transmission—as an anti-Republican attack piece it was notable that Woods, like the piece’s other star witness, is a Republican. Not just any Republican, either. Grant Woods is co-chair of the McCain for President leadership committee, and a lifelong friend and advisor to the presumptive 2008 G.O.P. presidential candidate. Woods is also godfather to one of the McCain children.

Attorney General Woods has this to say about the Bush Justice Department’s prosecution of Siegelman: “I personally believe that what happened here is that they targeted Don Siegelman because they could not beat him fair and square. This was a Republican state and he was the one Democrat they could never get rid of.”

In other words, not being able to beat Siegelman at the polls, Woods believes that his own party corruptly used the criminal justice process to take out an adversary. This is an extraordinary, heavy accusation. Not something that a senior Republican would raise easily about his own party. And the facts back the accusation up, beginning to end.

Crimes for Democrats, Fundraising as Usual for the G.O.P.

Start with the notion that the conduct that figures in the accusations is actually a crime. The basic charge is that businessman Richard Scrushy gave $500,000 to the Alabama Education Foundation, a vehicle Siegelman created to run a campaign for a state education lottery, and Siegelman in exchange appointed him to the state’s hospital oversight board.

WOODS: You do a bribery when someone has a real personal benefit. It’s that you’re exchanging an official public act for a personal benefit. Not, “Hey, I would like for you to help out on this project which I think is good for my state.” If you’re gonna start indicting people and putting them in prison for that, then you might as well just– build nine or ten new federal prisons because that happens everyday in every statehouse, in every city council, and in the Congress of the United States.

PELLEY: What you seem to be saying here is that this is analogous to giving a great deal of money to a presidential campaign. And as a result, you become Ambassador to Paris.

WOODS: Exactly. That’s exactly right.

Indeed, Karl Rove pursued financing for the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2000 and again in 2004 by organizing a special elite status—called “Pioneers” and “Rangers”—for persons who donated or raised $100,000 or more for the campaign. These donors understood that if they wanted to be appointed to a government office, like an ambassadorship, they only had to ask for it.

So how many Bush-Cheney donors in amounts of one hundred thousand and more were appointed to government offices or to positions in the Bush-Cheney transition team? The answer is one hundred and forty-six (146). And in how many of those cases did the Justice Department initiate investigations of corruption? The answer is zero (0). The Justice Department’s rationale is that this crime is one that can be committed by Democrats alone. When a Republican does it, it’s normal campaign fundraising.

False Evidence

But even if we accept that it’s possible for the Bush Department to create a new category of “Democrats Only” Crimes, we still have the basic fact that the evidence on which the Siegelman conviction was secured was false, and was known by the prosecutors to be false from the beginning. Indeed, the evidence of this is now so overpowering that the Justice Department refused to answer charges on camera, just as it has resisted Congressional demands to turn over documents and wrongfully failed to comply with FOIA requests. The key testimony at trial came from a man named Nick Bailey, who, unbeknownst to Siegelman, was a crook. He never contested that fact. And he’s now in prison, where CBS interviewed him—notwithstanding the Justice Department refusal to authorize an interview. The prosecutors nabbed him and then told him he could get a light sentence if he worked with them to nail Siegelman, their real target. This very process is a perversion of the justice system, which as former U.S. Attorney Jones very properly says, requires that prosecutors investigate crimes and not people. But it gets still worse. Bailey testifies that he saw a check change hands at a meeting at which Scrushy’s appointment to the oversight board was decided. This is the evidence that landed Siegelman in prison. And it was false. And the prosecutors knew that it was false.

JONES: They got a copy of the check. And the check was cut days after that meeting. There was no– there was no way possible for Siegelman to have walked out of that meeting with a check in his hand.

PELLEY: So, Siegelman could not have had that check–

JONES: No.

PELLEY: –in his hand that Bailey–

JONES: It was–

PELLEY: –testified to seeing?

JONES: Absolutely impossible and they knew that, absolutely impossible.

PELLEY: That would seem like a problem with the prosecution’s case…

JONES: It was a huge problem especially when you’ve got a guy whose credibility was going to be the lynch pin of that case. It was a huge problem.
So the Justice Department’s silence in response to the charges was masked with a platitudinous statement. They stated that Siegelman’s case was pursued and developed by career prosecutors, that it was based on the law, and justified by fair evidence.

Each of the statements is about as honest as Attorney General Gonzales’s statement, under oath, before Congress, that he just couldn’t remember any details concerning any decisions to fire eight U.S. Attorneys on December 7, 2006. Which is to say, they are false.

First, we know that the first two career prosecutors assigned to the case, including the most experience prosecutors who worked on it, came to the same conclusion that Grant Woods did: no reasonable prosecutor would ever have charged this case. The Justice Department has consistently made false statements about the roles of the two earlier prosecutors, and their role only emerged in the last few months. It’s extremely noteworthy that throughout the history of this case, whenever a career prosecutor concluded that charges should not be brought, that career prosecutor ran into a bump in his career and was off the case. The message to the remaining career prosecutors was plenty clear. In fact it is clear that the career prosecutors’ views were overridden by political appointees driven by a strong partisan political agenda.

Second, they claim that the case was brought on a fair reading of the law. It was not, and indeed reasonable career prosecutors never would have acted on the basis of the reading they advanced, and a fair detached judge never would have allowed the case to go forward. This case offered neither.

Third, they claim that evidence was produced to sustain the charges. But the key evidence that the prosecutors brought forward was false, and they knew it was false. In this case proceeding on the basis of that false evidence was a corrupt wielding of prosecutorial power, pursued for a corrupt partisan political end—the elimination of a political adversary. They withheld the Bailey notes which would have demonstrated that his memory on this was conflicted or wrong and would therefore have devastated his testimony. There is mounting evidence that one or more witnesses were unethically pressured to give false evidence or face retaliation. This suspicion surrounds not only Nick Bailey, but also Jefferson County Republican Commissioner Gary White. Note the affidavit of his wife, which a federal judge in Birmingham stated only two weeks ago he found “established a prima facie case of impermissible conduct” by the prosecutors. The claim put forward there goes precisely to these facts. White was pressured to give false evidence supporting Bailey on his false claims about the meeting. It is suggested that he would be prosecuted if he failed to do so. He refused, saying the testimony would be false. And he was prosecuted. This seems to summarize the crooked criminal justice system that Karl Rove and his friends have promoted in Alabama.

This is Only an Introduction

CBS conducted dozens of interviews and has much more that it hasn’t shown. The additional footage concerns the Canary team—husband Billy who advised the campaign of Republican gubernatorial candidates against Siegelman, and wife Leura Canary, whose prosecution of Siegelman was essential to the G.O.P.’s efforts to secure the Montgomery statehouse. And they have much more on the inexplicable conduct of federal Judge Mark Fuller, appointed by George W. Bush, a former member of the Alabama G.O.P.’s Executive Committee, and a man who publicly stated that Siegelman had a grudge against him—but who refused to recuse himself from the case.

Take a minute and write or phone CBS News and demand that they follow up on the open issues they raised and didn’t bring to fruition. Use the message function located under “Contact Us” at the bottom of this page.

Off the Air in Alabama

I am now hearing from readers all across Northern Alabama—from Decatur to Huntsville and considerably on down—that a mysterious “service interruption” blocked the broadcast of only the Siegelman segment of 60 Minutes this evening. The broadcaster is Channel 19 WHNT, which serves Northern Alabama and Southern Tennessee. This station was noteworthy for its hostility to Siegelman and support for his Republican adversary. The station ran a trailer stating “We apologize that you missed the first segment of 60 Minutes tonight featuring ‘The Prosecution of Don Siegelman.’ It was a techincal problem with CBS out of New York.” I contacted CBS News in New York and was told that “there is no delicate way to put this: the WHNT claim is not true. There were no transmission difficulties. The problems were peculiar to Channel 19, which had the signal and had functioning transmitters.” I was told that the decision to blacken screens across Northern Alabama “could only have been an editorial call.” Channel 19 is owned by Oak Hill Capital Partners, who can be contacted through Rhonda Barnat, 212-371-5999 or rb@abmac.com. Oak Hill Partners represents interests of the Bass family, which contribute heavily to the Republican Party. Viewers displeased about the channel’s decision to censor the broadcast should express their views directly to the station management or to the owners.

Misleading AP Report Filed

Hopefully the Associated Press editors will start paying close attention to the reporting that is moving over the AP wires with a Washington dateline about the Siegelman case. We now have the second straight AP story filled with highly tendentious and misleading statements which are carefully set out to mirror the attack line put out by the Alabama G.O.P., but using the wireservice’s own voice. Here are some examples contained in the story filed by Ben Evans:

In the program, Simpson made claims that she had not previously raised publicly, either in an affidavit that drew wide attention last summer or later in sworn congressional testimony. [But Simpson made the claims during the summer to four reporters I have identified so far, requesting that they not be used, apparently because CBS was promised an exclusive on the story. She also discussed them with a Congressional investigator. All facts suppressed by the writer.]

She said then-White House political strategist Karl Rove asked her in 2001 to find evidence that Siegelman was cheating on his wife. Simpson said it wasn’t the first time that Rove — who was active in Alabama politics before going to the White House — had asked her to find damaging information about opposing campaigns.

She had not mentioned Rove directly speaking to her previously [this statement is untrue]. In her earlier sworn statements, she said she heard party operatives running Republican Bob Riley’s campaign for governor discuss political influence behind Siegelman’s prosecution on corruption charges. She described conversations in 2002 and 2005 in which she claims Riley campaign officials suggested that Rove was pushing the Justice Department to pursue charges against the former governor to keep him off the ballot. . .

Rob Riley has not denied that Simpson had some volunteer involvement in the 2002 campaign but he and others at the top of the organization have disputed her accounts, beginning with the affidavit and later when her sworn account changed last fall in congressional testimony. She said then that Siegelman dropped his challenge to the 2002 vote count after being told the investigation of him would end if he did, a claim ridiculed by Riley campaign officials. . . [This sentence seriously mischaracterizes the facts. Simpson reported statements made by other Republican operatives, not any dialogue with Siegelman.]

The Justice Department — as well as the career prosecutors who handled the case — have insisted that politics played no role in the case, emphasizing that Siegelman was convicted by a jury. [This statement suppresses the facts that the two senior most career prosecutors did not support a prosecution, and wound up being taken off the case.] Congressional Democrats, however, have been looking into the case as part of a broader investigation into possible political meddling by the White House at the Justice Department. [This is tendentious and misleading, falsely suggesting that the investigations, which are bi-partisan and include internal inquiries within the Justice Department, are partisan in nature, all consistent with Alabama G.O.P. press releases.]

Also, about 50 former attorneys general — most of them Democrats, but including some Republicans — have asked for a congressional investigation into the case. [Highly tendentious formulation designed to avoid bringing attention to the fact that the effort is led by Republicans.]

how about checking every cow like other countries?

Why do Republicans and some Democrats want us to be like third world nations???   

Why the US doesn't have testing of all cattle shows the power of the beef industry.  
This gives no say to citizens --- again, it is the corporatocracy that has the power.
That is why CEO's are in court answering questions about how all the poisons are getting into ingredients for pet food, human food  and medicine. 

Privitization means supporting the unlawful processes. Not having visibility, oversight, or accountability on the the watchers as well as the corporations being watched.  Paying more and getting much less.

Fleecing the treasury. 

American citizens paying to be told to 'bend over'!

It is OUR money that is being spent on these crimes.

  

re Lore @ 1:31 -- Maybe because the Bush Cabal...

...embraces "depopulation" of the masses in ll its forms.

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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt

CBS's 60 Minutes omissions in Siegelman injustice...

Did anyone else notice the three major omissions in the 60  Minutes coverage of the former Democratic Governor Don Siegelman story?  These omissions were biggies that make Siegelman's incarceration more clearly the incarceration of a POLITICAL PRISONER!

Maybe you may have noted even more omisions than this, but here are the three I noticed:

1/  60 Minutes failed to clarify that the election won by Siegelman was somehow finessed into a win for his opponent -- and the challenger Siegelman's right to have a proper recount was corrupted.
2/  Siegelman's incarceration has included being shifted in communicado from one jail/prison to another without his lawyer's or family's knowledge of his whereabouts.
3/  Siegelman's APPEAL has been undermined by the Alabama federal and state authorities who refuse to release the trial's documents in a timely fashion.

I don't consider these small oversights on such a case.

And CBS's 60 Minutes cannot claim lack of time, because I've seen longer segments on music, sports, and sleezy crime personalities.  

So what's up?  Was the story for Siegelman made weaker on purpose, by plan, under pressure?  What gives?  What's the story behind the story now?
 
 

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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt

The "OBAY!" Campaign

was confirmed to be an Ontario Colleges advertising campaign.

enjoy.

Obay! rolled out a few weeks ago across Ontario.

"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"

Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...

21st Century voting -- Delusion or Reality?

Ralph Nader was right when he said POLITICAL BIGOTRY is a problem! And it leaves so many of us Citizens out of being represented, and leaves us out of a rightful chance to gain representation!

What if:
Ron Paul gets in...
Then Mayor Bloomberg...
And there's Ralph Nader in the running too?!

McCain would be hurt most. And Nader would be there to pressure Obama or Clinton (if she strongarms those super delegates) to keep the Dems realizing there are Progessive Voters out here.

I expect it would be most interesting.

I understand the stuff said about 'a third party won't work', but I think multiple parties would really make it clear how many people need representation in this country, and how many are being left out presently! If this were made clear, then maybe we could illustrate that some tweeking of our "democracy" is imperative so we can finally get better representation for more varieties of political viewpoints! We need ACTUAL REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT in this country, and the two parties are failing to deliver that representation!

My friend says instead of being treated as freaks and "extremists", most interest groups would then actually have a chance to take there interests to the political arena and argue their interests there. It would be much more obvious then that demonization by the Estblishment and Corporate Media of folks like the eco-minded advocates for the environment and clean energy, and peace and justice advocates, and animal protectors, open-minded educators, union workers, vegetarians and so on -- that that demonization is in actuality a crime of OSTRACIZATION of these interest groups from democratic participation AS POLITICAL FORCES.

Let's review the word 'REIFY' and its role in today's politics.

reify: to treat (an abstraction) as substantially existing, or a concrete material object.

The reification of American politics is alive and well.

This is a process based in delusion (the delusion of schizophrenia by the way!).

Americans who decide to vote for a candidate who does not represent their ideals, needs, principles and best interests JUST BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE SOME OTHER CANDIDATE IS MORE ELECTABLE, they are choosing A MYTH (the delusion that this "electable" candidate is my candidate and will represent me) even though that is not the truth and that candidate may NEVER represent their best interests! (If it's not clear, please read this again and give it another chance!)

Sanity means rooting yourself in the REAL WORLD and finding real world solutions for our problems! (Something Ralph Nader has been committed to, by the way.)
Voting for A MYTH, is not an act of sanity!

Review the word 'reify'.

Don't reify your vote.

When you vote for someone who doesn't represent you (your choices, like, say Medicare-for-All), you don't get represented. If you vote for Mr. Electable just because he is considered Mr. Electable, you are voting for a myth -- voting for a dream/delusion that he might represent you. You vote a falsehood.

Do this, and you no longer have REPRESENTATIVE government.

It is just not SANE behavior to vote like that.

Must we continue to embrace the Dems who -- despite their 2006 voter mandate -- still FUND the OCCUPATION, fail to restore HABEUS CORPUS, fail to stand solid against illegal domestic surveillance of innocent US Citizens, fail to challenge signing statements and executive orders and no-bid contracts, fail to stop public funding for private sector (fascist/brownshirt style) armies, fail to stop election fraud, drag their feet on challenging the Prosecutor Purge and Justice Dept. Disintegration, fail to halt the subsidies for coal and the price-gouging by Big Oil, continue to support cluster bombs and landmines (Hillary!), continue to subsidize nuclear power (Obama!), and need I go on to mention that "impeachment" (that is, the Constitutional duty of the Citizenry's representatives to preserve the balance of powers) "is off the table"?!!

The situation is even worse than it was in 2000, and we need the Ralph Nader to demonstrate concrete commitment even more now than we did then.

And when I say 'CONCRETE', I mean it. Touch that seatbelt in your car that saves your kid from being a projectile. How does that compare with making a 'bet' that Barack Obama will dump his corporate pals and the lobbyists on his campaign staff and someday let loose on those ideals he hints at in his Change and Hope speeches? Which is more CONCRETE -- your seatbelt proof of Ralph Nader's commitment to change what doesn't work for the wellbeing of US Citizens or Obama's feelgoodaboutchange 'image'. A 'bet' is a wierd kind of thing to choose as a substitute for our Constitutionally-provided vote to secure REPRESENTATION. Why vote for someone who doesn't represent your needs, principles, best interests on a 'gamble' that the "electable" candidate (media-approved) maybe eventually might change and someday represent you?

The dream of winning a bet, the worship of mythology, the heady state of suspension created by delusion -- Shake 'em off and recapture the down-to-earth reason that produced our Constitution and over the years provided us with improvements in our lives through concrete effort.

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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt

but if your Electorate

but if your Electorate cannot TAKE the issues Nader puts in FRONT OF YOUR NOSES & negotiate those ACTUAL ISSUES INTO the platforms of your leading corporate candidates.

Then you've lost any hope of democracy...

because you're simply taking what is handed to yaou by their corporate lobbyists & backers.

THE TIME TO NEGOTIATE CHANGE IS BEFORE THEY GET ELECTED.

"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"

Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...

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