The Thom Hartmann Program - July 11 2008
Anything Goes! Friday
Hour One - "Brunch With Bernie" Senator Bernie Sanders www.sanders.senate.gov
Hour Two - Jon B. Eisenberg www.eandhlaw.com Topic: FISA and his current case against Bush for illegal, warrentless wiretapping of Al-Haramain
Thom's Travel & Events Coming Up…
July 18th - Grand Rapids, MI - Thom broadcasts from affiliate WTKG...then 6:30-7:30pm, booksigning & dinner buffet courtesy of Lanning's Catering at the UAW Regional Offices
Rove - Inherent Contempt
This morning, Conyers apparently floated the possibility of inherent contempt. But Arianna doesn't think it will happen.
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By WillMicawberJuly 11, 2008 - 12:45pmThe Gary Thom was thinking of is Gary Sick
... author of "October Surprise".
"There's no telling what new harm Bush might do
if he ever gets back up off the mat.
You have to keep your knee on his windpipe
until the danger is past." -- Garry Trudeau
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By tbetzJuly 11, 2008 - 1:44pmI saw Russ Feingold (my first choice for President)
talk to Rachel Maddow on MSNBC about Obama's vote on FISA. He seemed to intimate that President Obama would fix FISA so this current disaster will only affect the next <200 days. If Russ says so, I am happy.
Suppose Obama dug his heels in and got the Democrats to block the FISA bill. What if we had another terrorist attack between now and November and the Bush Admin. said that their hands were tied because of the FISA bill failure. How would that throw the election? Does anyone believe that the Bushies are above either causing or letting another terrorist attack happen for political gain?
Obama's vote, though disappointing, represented the less bad option.
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By macFanDaveJuly 11, 2008 - 3:25pmWhy don't you explain where the idea started?
Thom,
Why doesn't anyone say it? The idea of Comprehensive Social Services as a matter of State policy began with a Social Conservative, Otto von Bismarck. Briefly stated, as I undersand it, he thought that the Empire was obliged to ensure the basic welfare of its citizens. Okay, they had to pay into the system, and there was an upper limit to what the State could offer. Beyond that, of course, the private insurers came in offering what the basic plan could not provide.
The neo-Cons and Libertarians are selling a dream where nobody is ever injured at any time, nobody ever gets sick, literally, nothing is "unexpected", and if that happens, well . . . you become another statistic in a Social Darwinian Paradise. Most people understand the fallacy of that arguement, even the yournger folks come into the campaign realizing the need for a govenment infrastructure that covers the b basic needs of the population. So . . . except for the crazies who live in a world that doesn't exist, most Americans understand that the results of "rugged individualism" is chaos and the break down of a civil society starting from the local level and everything beyond.
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By d2343@012.net.ilJuly 14, 2008 - 5:57am