Footnotes to a quiet civil war

By Avedon from the Sideshow

BTD recommends a Democracy Now! debate between Glenn Greenwald and Cass Sunstein in which, he says, Sunstein is an ass. Truly, you'd expect someone like Sunstein to know what he's talking about on an issue like FISA, only he doesn't - or at least, like many apologists for the FISA vote, he's just not a very good liar. (Also: I dunno, is Vanity Fair doing a parody of the New Yorker cover much better? I mean, except that, in this case, what's in the cartoon is actually true - especially what's in the fireplace.)

Barney Frank is pretty good on a lot of things, but he's not having much success convincing corporate America that they have a stake in rescuing America from the mess they've been making. Mick Arran says: "Barney's not naive but I have to wonder if he understands that his own party is half the problem? The conservative DLC leadership is putting ZERO pressure on business to conciliate labor, treat its workers better, or come up with a health care plan that doesn't put all the expense on the employee. So why should they respond? They're paying Blue Dogs to make sure they don't have to and the Dem presidential candidate just made a pilgrimage to Wall Street (Harold Ford set it up; his Wall Street contacts are the reason he was given charge of the DLC) to reassure them that if he wins in November, the investor class has nothing to worry about, nothing to be afraid of. He's on their side."

Bill Scher has posted a bunch of interviews he did with people at Netroots Nation over at Liberal Oasis, such as with Jim Hightower and Natasha Chart.

Don Siegelman has his own web page, and he wants you to send your rep a letter. (Does anyone know if Sammy's interview with Siegelman has been posted anywhere yet? His article about Siegelman's case is here.)

By Avedon July 22, 2008 - 5:45pm

So, I take it that you didn't notice...
...that the DLC shifted its support to Obama long before the primary was over.

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I noticed in much the same way they noticed that Obama would go on to become the nominee. That Hillary was their preferred candidate in no way precluded them from seeing who the winner would be. It surprises/d me little that they would then shift from poking and pushing their leadership loser to trying to get their corporatist pokers into the presumptive nominee. I am less concerned about the apparent shift of focus by an increasingly-less-relevant organization within the Democratic Party and more concerned about the apparent shifts of position by a nominee who is increasingly-more-likely to become President toward positions of that increasingly-less-relevant organization within the Democratic Party.

He's further to the right than Hillary, and just their cup of tea.
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Um. Yeah. If you say so...
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