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Vatican Urges Catholics to Close Wallets to Amnesty International
News:
The Vatican is urging Catholics to forgo donations to Amnesty International after the group made changes to its policy on abortion. In response, Amnesty sought to clarify its position, stating its policy is:
to support the decriminalisation of abortion, to ensure women have access to health care when complications arise from abortion and to defend women's access to abortion, within reasonable gestational limits, when their health or human rights are in danger.
The Vatican called Amnesty's policy change a "pro-abortion about-turn."
Gotta love those compassionate Catholic values!
In the big scheme of things, leave it to the Vatican to choose one minor issue and blow it up to that's all Amnesty International does ... support abortion.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 1:37pmOK, Pookie, truce for a second...
As a former (recovering) Catholic, I do agree with you on their over-reacting (although I do wish AI would stop busting our chops on every little thing that goes wrong in the world) I'm just sick with all of their meddling and stick to cleaning up their own house before preaching to the world.
See, we conservatives are not all that bad, are we?
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 1:58pmConservatives are not horrible
but you are not a conservative. You are a fascist.
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 2:00pmWell, this is nice Voltar talking...
The other one comes out during idiocy.
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 2:03pmSubmitted by voltar on June 14, 2007 - 2:58pm. |
I fully agree with you on this one ... instead of looking at ALL Amnesty International does, they choose this to go full hog on? The hypocrisy is astounding.
I never said conservatives are bad ... I have several very good friends who are conservatives and there are several conservative politicians that I do admire. Unfortunately, the Goldwater Conservatives have gotten pushed out of your party in favor of the religious right freaks.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 2:22pmActually the Evangelicals are getting old fast for me
When I left the Catholic Church I became Orthodox Christian, which is a lot more stable and not NEARLY as judgmental as certain religions. I'm just lashing out BECAUSE I'm tired of being referred to as a right wing-nut for the mere reason of going to church, being conservative and watching FOXnews. I'm just sick of all the insults all the time, not towards me personally (I can dish it out as well as take it), but to my beliefs.
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 2:31pmSubmitted by voltar on June 14, 2007 - 7:31pm.
Watching Fox "News" is one thing, but believing and/or spreading the propaganda is another.
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By ExpatinEUJune 14, 2007 - 2:36pmAs opposed
to the Amy Goodman/Pacifica freaks?
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 2:39pmOoooh! I smell FEAR!
What's wrong, little troll-monkey? You found someone that's as nutty on the left as Faux Noize is on the right, so you want to silence them?
So much for enjoying Fair and Balanced reporting, huh?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Remind me to contribute to Pacifica Radio!
g0p = p\/\/n3d!
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By nonexistent manJune 15, 2007 - 4:08amyou are NOT a conservative!
You are a fascist! Leave true christians out of it! I dont know which evil demon you worship, but it isnt Jesus! Jesus has liberal values. Being a fascist and being a christian are NOT compatable.
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 2:42pmHow would you know...
You psychopathic dip-shit Mother Fucker...You wouldn't know a conservative if you saw one close enough to fuck you with a dick big enough for an elephant to feel it!
What is with you anarchists? Anybody to the right of Che Guvera or Malik Shabazz is a fascist to you fucks!
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 2:47pmSubmitted by voltar on June 14, 2007 - 2:47pm
How very "Christian" of you, knuckledragger.
On some great & glorious day the plain folks will reach their hearts desire at last, & the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. - H.L. Mencken
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By Guy FawkesJune 14, 2007 - 2:50pmYeah, and If I was a Muslim
You would probably be applauding right now.
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 2:58pmThe muslims would not have
a lying scum traitor like you.
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 3:01pmI know exactly what YOU and your kind are.
You are the EVIL! You and your kind are the biggest danger my country faces. You despise america and its citizens. You willingly lie about america. You are a grave danger to true american's freedoms. And you will LOSE!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 2:57pmI was born Jewish but raised Catholic (long story).
I consider myself more of an agnostic (I don't know and neither do you). I could care less what people believe, what and who they pray to. I certainly do not belittle someone because they choose to believe in god and have faith. The issue I have is having those beliefs forced upon me - those are the people who I call "hypocritical Christians" and belittle and not because of their belief in god but the screaming hypocrisy they exhibit. I find that it's not the majority of Christians who think the entire WORLD should be Christian, just the minority of Christians who believe that we should be a theocratic society instead of a democratic republic and that they have a god-given right to force their belief system on not just this country, but the world.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 2:54pmHey, I have no problems with agnostics
I just hate the finger wagging of how I'm wrong because I DO believe in God. I tried for a long time to do the "I'll live in my yard and you live in yours" approach, but finally I just gave up. Mainly due to people like hufflarry who seem to hate everything but themselves. It makes me sad, actually.
Actually, I like the arguments I cause. It's a great release.
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 3:03pmYou do not believe in God.
Your fascist, evil beliefs show that. You believe in a demon of death, destruction and immorality. Stop insulting true christians. You are a fake, phoney christian, all you fascists are. Jesus is a liberal!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 3:07pmYou just illustrate the point...
Either you're a Jim Phelps Calvinist wack job or just a wack job. Which is it?
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 3:14pmI am a true american
and a believer in the constitution. You are a fascist traitor who wants to destroy my country. You are the enemy, a fascist insurgent. You are against all that is decent and good. You will NOT win, that I guarantee!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 3:40pmHuffy, cons hate our SECULAR constitution
Why ? Because deep down, cons hate Democracy. They prefer authoritarianism
When the President and politicians take the oath of office they place their hand on the bible and swear to uphold the SECULAR US Constitution…..NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND !!
Cons misuse word "SECULAR".
They call liberals those "SECULAR progressives" as if the word secular equates to ATHEIST heathen.
The word SECULAR means= to return to CIVIL CONTROL from religious control.
ie: CIVIL COURTS rather than Religious courts.
You know, like what the SECULAR constitution requires.
And those liberal Christians like Pres. Carter and Rev.MLKjr supports SECULAR civil court systems.
Does that make those 2 christians ATHEISTIC "secular" Heathens ?????
Don't forget to ALWAYS mention LIBERAL Christians like Pres.Carter & Rev. MLKjr.
Liberals ALWAYS forget about these TRUE believers of the "Prince of PEACE and christ's message of helping the poor.
Watch what cons DO, not what cons SAY !!! (Hypocrisy)
Exposing the CON in CONservative !!!
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By AfricaBambaJune 15, 2007 - 12:42pmI'm more of a "Calvin and Hobbsist"
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By A GJune 14, 2007 - 3:50pmCalvin & Hobbes ... IMHO, BETTER than "Peanuts"!!
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 4:10pmPook. Check this out. VERY VERY good.
This retired Bishop argues that Jesus the LIBERAL is being defamed by the religious RIGHT wackos.
Click for audio clip of speech
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/04/23/midday2/
Jesus for the non-religious
John Shelby Spong admits it's strange for a retired Episcopal bishop to write a book called "Jesus for the Non-religious." But Spong says there are many aspects of religion that he deeply dislikes. Speaking recently at the Westminster Town Hall Forum, Spong called for a modern, liberal interpretation of Christianity.
Watch what cons DO, not what cons SAY !!! (Hypocrisy)
Exposing the CON in CONservative !!!
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By AfricaBambaJune 15, 2007 - 12:46pmhey huffer,
If I've told you once I've told you a hundred times. Stay away from Butane, paint, model glue, and all of the solvent based aerosols. They are frying your brain! Go back to PAM. I mean, that HAS to be the reason for your inane, immature, and completely DUMBASS comments. You really need to go in for a med check. You must see fascists around every corner and under every bed. When I read you comments I'm not sure if I should laugh or call Beleview to see if they do pickups. You have to be either the dumbest person on this site or the most medicated.
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By jerrykramer64June 14, 2007 - 8:16pmNo fascist
I am well aware of what you people are. The vast majority know what you are. True americans know what you are. And you dont like it a bit. The truth hurts you. Your hypocrisy is appalling. It is almost over. Liberals take complete control soon.
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 8:20pmHuffy, cons hate our SECULAR constitution
Why ? Because deep down, cons hate Democracy. They prefer authoritarianism
When the President and politicians take the oath of office they place their hand on the bible and swear to uphold the SECULAR US Constitution…..NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND !!
Cons misuse word "SECULAR".
They call liberals those "SECULAR progressives" as if the word secular equates to ATHEIST heathen.
The word SECULAR means= to return to CIVIL CONTROL from religious control.
ie: CIVIL COURTS rather than Religious courts.
You know, like what the SECULAR constitution requires.
And those liberal Christians like Pres. Carter and Rev.MLKjr supports SECULAR civil court systems.
Does that make those 2 christians ATHEISTIC "secular" Heathens ?????
Don't forget to ALWAYS mention LIBERAL Christians like Pres.Carter & Rev. MLKjr.
Liberals ALWAYS forget about these TRUE believers of the "Prince of PEACE and christ's message of helping the poor.
Watch what cons DO, not what cons SAY !!! (Hypocrisy)
Exposing the CON in CONservative !!!
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By AfricaBambaJune 15, 2007 - 12:39pmLet this sink in....
Cardinal Bernardin wrote:
If one contends, as we do, that the right of every foetus to be born should be protected by civil law and supported by civil consensus, then our moral, political, and economic responsibilities do not stop at the moment of birth.
Those who defend the right to life of the weakest among us must be equally visible in support of the quality of life of the powerless among us: the old and the young, the hungry and the homeless, the undocumented immigrant and the unemployed worker.
Such a quality of life posture translates into specific political and economic positions on tax policy, employment generation, welfare policy, nutrition and feeding programs, and health care.
Consistency means we cannot have it both ways. We cannot urge a compassionate society and vigorous public policy to protect the rights of the unborn and then argue that compassion and significant public programs on behalf of the needy undermine the moral fibre of the society or are beyond the proper scope of governmental responsibility.
Cardinal Bernardin
"Invest In America Buy A Congressman"--evolvefish
One election at a time......
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By pb_trueJune 15, 2007 - 3:50amSubmitted by voltar on June 14, 2007 - 4:03pm. |
I've never cut someone down because of their faith ... it's theirs, who am I to question it? Just don't ram it down my throat ... that's all I ask.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 4:07pmThe killing of millions of
The killing of millions of unborn children is a "minor issue"? There are way more humans affected by abortion than torture.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 3:47pmya lets just let them be born
and kill them later. Much more civilized. Now that is evil! No rapture for you, you fundie nutcase!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 3:50pmSo, hufflarry
How's the weather out there in Kansas? Still practicing for you're world tour of "God Hates the World?" Been to any funerals with your "God Hates Fags" signs?
I'm on to you, fanatic wastoid
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By voltarJune 14, 2007 - 3:55pmOoooh! Projection!
What's wrong, little baby troll-monkey? Phelps kick you out of his church for admitting you like Canadian bacon on your pizza? Can't have that, now can they? You're supporting socialist medicine! You're supporting a country that permits gay marriage! You're a devil-worshipper! Get thee behind him, Satan...and push harder!
Face it, kid. You're STILL a fnord.
GWB43: the reign of error.
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By nonexistent manJune 14, 2007 - 4:01pmNo I live in a very liberal/progressive big city.
There are few if any of your kind where I live. I rarely have to see people like you. But let me guess, you live in the rural south?
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 4:04pmSubmitted by jumpingjackflash on June 14, 2007 - 4:47pm. |
Look at the BIG picture jackoff ... Amnesty International does INFINTELY more. Abortion is just a speck in the big scheme of things, hence, the "minor" comment.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 4:08pmI'd also like to point out...
That victims of injustice and torture ARE ACTUAL PEOPLE... REAL LIFE, LIVING HUMAN BEINGS.
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By A GJune 14, 2007 - 4:11pmThanks for the addition A G!!
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 4:11pmSo is a 1 month old fetus.
So is a 1 month old fetus. They have a heartbeat and a soul.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 4:17pmYou can see the soul on the ultrasound? a MIRACLE!
When you have a vagina and a uterus and can get pregnant, then you can bitch.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 4:20pmThat is a reeeeeeally stupid
That is a reeeeeeally stupid argument.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 4:33pmNo, you are a stupid argument
Why is it stupid Jumpingjackoff? Because women are the ones who 1) carry the child 2) go through the EXCRUTIATING PAINS of childbirth 3) have to deal with postpartem 4) in the case of an unwanted pregnancy, they have to actually GO THROUGH THE ABORTION PROCEDURE which is humiliating, degrading, and just all around unpleasant but so are many things in this life that may be necessary for one reason or another, like say, CHILDBIRTH 5) in most cases, the women you would want to force to have a child when they want an abortion will MOST LIKELY BE RAISING THAT CHILD BY THEMSELVES!!!! And since the religious right only cares about kids up until the point where they are born, these women will most likely be raising these kids with little to no assistance. Yes, this is just what we want, more women and children in poverty to perpetuate the cycle. The vast majority of the homeless poor are women with children you fuck. This is why when women tell me that when I have a vagina I can decide the abortion debate I understand where they are coming from. This is a WOMEN'S HEALTH issue dumbass!!!
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By Vicariously I LiveJune 14, 2007 - 4:40pmIt's a stupid argument
It's a stupid argument because:
1. It take a man and a women to create a baby
2. The parents don't "own" the baby.
3. It's a human being whether it has been born yet or not.
This is not a women's health issue it is a right to live issue. All of the issues you bring up don't give anyone the right to terminate a human life.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 4:54pmhow's this for a health issue
I ran out of soap, can you suck my balls? They need some cleaning.
And you are right about one thing, in certain cases this is a right to life issue. As in when the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother's life and even the woman's doctor recommends terminating the pregnancy. Should the woman have to risk dying for her pregnancy? What if she already has a couple of kids? Why should she have to risk orphaning them (or leaving them with a new baby brother or sister and a dead mom and grieving dad) because a bunch of reich wing christians decided their beliefs are tantamount to law? Let's ask Mitt Romney... oh wait, he referred to a woman getting an abortion that was doctor recommended due to her blood clots and likelihood of getting them as "Getting off easy...when other women are having their babies." She already has a few kids and so thinks that pursuing a pregnancy deemed lifethreatening to her would be a bad idea... but Mitt doesn't care, he's a christian politician which trumps doctors' opinions everytime.
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By Vicariously I LiveJune 14, 2007 - 5:02pmAll the talk in world
All the talk in world doesn't make killing an unborn human right. It doesn't have anything to do with religion, it's just wrong.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 5:24pmit's just wrong.
That's your OPINION. Your OPINION is not LAW.
Grow a vagina and uterus and then we'll take about what is RIGHT for a woman and what is WRONG for a woman. Tell ya what, let's just force MEN to undergo VASECTOMIES ...
Let's compare the hypocrisy between men and women:
Viagra comes out on the market and insurance companies immediately cover its costs for those who can't get and sustain a hard-on ... specifically older men whose wives are WELL past child-bearing age.
Birth Control comes on the market YEARS before Viagra and insurance companies are just NOW starting to cover its costs ... far be it from the industry to CARE about WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH; far be it from the industry to CARE about PREVENTIVE CARE; far be it from the industry to CARE ENOUGH to COVER birth control so women don't HAVE to get abortions, ESPECIALLY those WHO CAN'T AFFORD THE $50+ A MONTH for the goddamned pills.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 15, 2007 - 9:06amDo you really want to make
Do you really want to make it where only men or women can decide on certain issues? Women aren't allowed in combat, does that mean women aren't allowed to make decisions on war?
I don't really see how insurance companies covering Viagra has anything to do with killing a human being in the womb. You have fooled yourself into thinking that it's not alive until it's born.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 15, 2007 - 5:29pmBlah, blah, blah. MY body. MY decisions. And, you
have fooled yourself thinking otherwise.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 19, 2007 - 9:47amBut you can support a lie
to start a war and terminate real human life. Why dont you explain that hypocrisy? Because you CANT! You bible thumping hicks are the most evil degenerates in this country. Murdering BROWN people and BROWN babies over a lie to start a war is OK in your evil demon based religion
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 5:03pmJack
I'm still waiting for my ball polish.
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By Vicariously I LiveJune 14, 2007 - 5:13pmLet your dog do it like you
Let your dog do it like you usually do.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 5:25pmoooooh
But you don't use teeth like he does baby. I need some of your sweet lovin'.
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By Vicariously I LiveJune 14, 2007 - 5:26pmCant answer my simple question, can you?
None of you evil hypocritical bastards can. You are all demons, every single one of you bible thumping freaks.
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 5:29pmHuff, you are a total nut
Huff, you are a total nut and not worth the effort.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 6:14pmnope
You just wont answer. You would have to admit being the hypocrite liar that you are. YOU are a BABY KILLER!! LIVE WITH IT DEMON!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 6:16pmThanks for proving my point
Thanks for proving my point nut case.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 6:20pmanswer the question, baby killer.
Why do you support murderering Iraqi babies over Bush lies to start the war when you are against abortion? You just cant grasp the fact that you are a baby killer too, just like you say abortion kills babies. If you ever admitted the evil that you are, you would be in an asylum. You support the murder of babies. Live with it! Or change your evil ways and become a normal person.
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 6:26pmSubmitted by hufflarry2000 on June 14, 2007 - 4:26pm
They never answer. They don't care about foreign babies. Utter hypocrisy.
I am f u bush2
I am druid
I am broken_scooter
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By f u bush2June 14, 2007 - 6:51pmyep
I get so sick of being called a baby killer when they support the war of lies that kills real babies and pregnant women. If Bush had not lied to us and had not attacked Iraq there would not be so many dead people(babies and pregnant women) But they continue to support Bush and the war even though the Bush lies have been proven to be lies. If these morons believe abortion is baby killing, then supporting this war of lies is also baby killing. They cant have it both ways. They are worse. Most of the babies they murder are born. Damned evil hypocrites!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 7:05pmYou are so full of it. You
You are so full of it. You see no wrong in allowing millions of unborn babies to be killed in the name of choice while crying about terrorists being killed in Iraq. Your opposition to the war is purely politically motivated.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 8:29pmanswer my question hick
Why do you CHOOSE to support a war based on lies that has killed thousands of pregnant women and babies over those lies? If not for the lies the babies would be alive. You are a baby killer. You people just kill more babies that are already born. You are a sinner, baby killer! No rapture for you! There have been 650000 civilians killed in Iraq. There are few terrorists there. But you keep on trying to justify your support of killing babies. You would crack up if you didnt. Scum baby killer!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 8:35pmOooh, look! Projection!
This entire occupation (it hasn't been a war since the Oathbreaker stood on the flight deck of that aircraft carrier off the US coast and declared "Mission Accomplished") has been politically motivated, and focused on one thing and one thing only: money.
To claim otherwise is to demonstrate the incredible depths of your own ignorance.
The Iraq occupation: slow grind to nowhere.
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By nonexistent manJune 14, 2007 - 8:36pmSubmitted by jumpingjackflash on June 14, 2007 - 6:29pm
Those damn terrorists babies!
Hey while you are supporting the policies of Israel let me ask you. Is it more gratifying to see a terrorist baby die by bomb or dysentery?
Do you prefer a slow death for those babies?
I am f u bush2
I am druid
I am broken_scooter
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By f u bush2June 14, 2007 - 9:10pmSubmitted by jumpingjackflash on June 14, 2007 - 6:29pm
The truth of war. JJ I challenge you to look at the graphic pictures of people (including children) hurt by war if you dare.
The most common response is 'show me evidence these people were hurt by US bombs'. That is silly. It is teh last effort of someone trying to deny the ugly side of war. Well teh answer to that typical question is 'it doesn't matter'. You kmow innocent people died during our invasion. And later from violence caused by our invasion. Do you believe the innocent people in a building struck by a US bomb died 'more peacefully'? Come on. Even if each and everyone of these pictures were from another conflict they would still accurately represent the horror of being hit by a missile or an IED.
http://irregulartimes.com/dead.html
http://www.progressiveaustin.org/iraqivic.htm
I will be honest with you. I can't look at the pictures. I saw them briefly and that was enough. Then again I didn't need convincing of the horror. I recognized what it would be like well before we invaded.
I am f u bush2
I am druid
I am broken_scooter
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By f u bush2June 14, 2007 - 9:27pmSubmitted by jumpingjackflash on June 14, 2007 - 5:54pm. |
I would expect this response from a MAN. Just remember - it is usually the MAN who ABANDONS the pregnant WOMAN; it is usually the MAN who BEATS said pregnant WOMAN; and said pregnant WOMAN does not want to raise a child in an abusive environment and doesn't want to do it ALONE.
When you have a vagina, a uterus and can get pregnant, THEN you'll have something to say.
I've stated this before and I'll say it again ... I hardly think MEN would want the GOVERNMENT to tell them what they can or cannot to do with THEIR bodies ... oh, no! Fucking hypocrite.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 15, 2007 - 8:59amPookie, you are wrong on 2
Pookie, you are wrong on 2 accounts.
1.) Women can't get pregnant on their own so it's not a women only issue.
2.) The baby isn't part of a womens' body, it's a human life IN a womens body. There's no way you can claim otherwise because the dna is different. If you really cared about life you would see that.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 15, 2007 - 2:02pmTell that to
Dick Cheneys lesbian daughter. She did not need a man just a mans sperm. So much for that lie!
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By hufflarry2000June 15, 2007 - 2:36pmYatzee !!!
Watch what cons DO, not what cons SAY !!! (Hypocrisy)
Exposing the CON in CONservative !!!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too easy !!!
NEXT.............
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By AfricaBambaJune 15, 2007 - 3:11pmThat's a man involved moron.
That's a man involved moron. Lay off the glue for a change.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 15, 2007 - 4:01pmNo, YOU'RE wrong on two counts ...
1. Since the WOMAN goes through the pregnancy, it IS a women's ONLY issue;
2. The embryo is unable to fend for itself, thus it IS part of the woman's body. A fetus is unable to fend for itself, thus it IS part of the woman's body.
Look, I'm certainly not advocating abortion as a method of birth control, nor am I advocating late-term abortions ... but I strongly believe that it is a woman's right to choose what is good and what is not good for her and her body, especially with something as personal as abortion.
How dare you insinuate that just because I don't follow YOUR way of thinking that I don't value life. What a tool you are. I do value life ... the already viable and living.
Would YOU want government tell you what medical procedures you can and cannot do with your own body?
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 15, 2007 - 3:41pmRationalize it however you
Rationalize it however you want but you are advocating killing a human being in the name of choice and womens rights.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 15, 2007 - 4:00pmKEY words - WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 19, 2007 - 9:49amHow about this argument bible basher
You are against abortion, yet you are a Republican who supports Bush who lied to start a war and murdered thousands of pregnant woman and babies over those lies. That makes you a HYPOCRITE! Unless you are the typical right wing fake christians who thinks those BROWN babies dont matter! Take your evil religion and shove it jackass!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 4:40pmSubmitted by jumpingjackflash on June 14, 2007 - 5:33pm. |
Your argument is just reeeeeeeeeeeeally stupid.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 15, 2007 - 8:55amSubmitted by jumpingjackflash on June 14, 2007 - 4:17pm
Really? Does their "soul" show up on a sonagram? You fargin' twit.
On some great & glorious day the plain folks will reach their hearts desire at last, & the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. - H.L. Mencken
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By Guy FawkesJune 14, 2007 - 4:20pmand of course you have HARD facts that anyone has a soul?
No you dont. That is just one of your BELIEFS! A belief is not a fact you bible thumping bumpkin!
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 4:21pmA one-month embryo is Carnegie stage 13
No heartbeat, no brain. Click on the first image there, 28 days (Carnegie stage 13) for closeups.
They aren't even called fetuses at that point.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://embryo.soad.umich.edu/carn...
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By MichtouJune 14, 2007 - 4:59pmThey've detected heartbeats
They've detected heartbeats as early as 3 weeks.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 5:02pmFunny, when there isn't even a heart yet
Who is "they?"
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By MichtouJune 14, 2007 - 5:06pmWhy cant you answer my question you dumb hick?
If you are against abortion, why is it OK to kill pregnant women and babies over Bush lies to start a war? Why cant you answer?
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By hufflarry2000June 14, 2007 - 5:11pmThat's easy
The g0p needs cannon fodder.
'Nuff said.
Sometimes it's so easy I'm ashamed of myself...
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By nonexistent manJune 14, 2007 - 5:13pmOh, really?
And you got your medical degree WHERE? Regent, perhaps?
No fetus is viable to live outside the mother before they reach 500 grams' weight. That's usually somewhere around 26 weeks.
Try FACTS. You'll get a lot further.
For the ordinary American, the price of "New Democracy" in other countries is the death of real democracy at home. ~~~Arundhati Roy
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By nonexistent manJune 14, 2007 - 5:12pmI disagree.
And we'll just have to agree to disagree.
So you go ahead and do whatever you want with your wife and daughters BUT STAY OUT OF MY PERSONAL BUSINESS.
WHAT MY WIFE AND/OR DAUGHTERS DO WITH THEIR VAGINAS IS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS AND CERTAINLY NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS.
FUCK OFF... and take your primitive superstitions with you.
What part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
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By A GJune 15, 2007 - 8:06amPlease explain how they do
Please explain how they do "infinitely" more when there are millions of abortions occuring each year.
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By jumpingjackflashJune 14, 2007 - 4:13pmIs that all Amnesty does? Abortions? Uh, no.
Actually, I've heard Amnesty International even has their own ... website! Well, can you imagine that?
Use the googles jackoff, those internets tubes can be your friend.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
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By Pookie2112June 14, 2007 - 4:15pmGoogling the is dangerous
He might learn about some of the good things they do. Heaven forbid!
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By gt6June 14, 2007 - 5:13pmjumpingjackflash sez, Support AAR...it's where I blog
Cardinal Bernardin wrote:
If one contends, as we do, that the right of every foetus to be born should be protected by civil law and supported by civil consensus, then our moral, political, and economic responsibilities do not stop at the moment of birth.
Those who defend the right to life of the weakest among us must be equally visible in support of the quality of life of the powerless among us: the old and the young, the hungry and the homeless, the undocumented immigrant and the unemployed worker.
Such a quality of life posture translates into specific political and economic positions on tax policy, employment generation, welfare policy, nutrition and feeding programs, and health care.
Consistency means we cannot have it both ways. We cannot urge a compassionate society and vigorous public policy to protect the rights of the unborn and then argue that compassion and significant public programs on behalf of the needy undermine the moral fibre of the society or are beyond the proper scope of governmental responsibility.
Cardinal Bernardin
"Invest In America Buy A Congressman"--evolvefish
One election at a time......
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By pb_trueJune 14, 2007 - 5:33pmElevation & Windage - Kentucky DOPE!!!
Why mandate limits on self determination that causes no harm to others?
Should vasectomy be made illegal, since hundreds of thousands of sperm will be die a gruesome death as they are absorbed and excreted as urine?
The morning after pill is as blasphemous as abortion to the Vatican, so menstruation that flushes zygotes that are not fully bonded to the uterus should be punishable by imprisonment as well.
Should a woman unaware she is pregnant have an allergic reaction from a bee, or jellyfish sting that triggers her body to reject the tick tack sized growth clinging to her womb as if it were a cancerous parasite, she should be set to the inquisition as well right?
Let's cut to the chase. The point of organized religion is to control populations that were intentionally kept ignorant for the purpose of producing taxable product for royalty and feudal lords to trade for currency that was used to trade for luxury items, and maintain a warrior class to provide security for leisure time for the educated elite.
The remnants of the religious mafia still exist, but their days are numbered. The $100 WIFI PC NOTEBOOKS will make education a right not a privilege. When that's done only mutant retards or those on SOMA will pay any attention to people who pretend they communicate with supernatural beings described in books of dubious origin.
Until then the SCOUTS and the POTUS will be seen carousing with men in pointed hats at events like the RED MASS for propaganda purposes and to conspire to maintain their superior class status.
Sir Thomas More (the so-called man for all seasons) was Lord Chancellor of England from 1529 to 1532. He was one of the most cruel Inquisitors in history ranking right up there with Torquemada, Philip II, Bloody Mary, Judge Jeffreys etc., etc. Thomas More was made a saint of the Roman Catholic church in 1936 and on Reformation Day in the year 2000, the Pope made him the patron saint of politicians.
Formed in 2001, the St. Thomas More Society is an organization aimed at providing opportunities for lawyers, judges and government servants.
Here's your sign:
Red Mass
Red GITMO