News:
In a 2005 memo, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' chief of staff, Kyle Sampson, ranked U.S. attorneys, using ratings such as "bold" and "strikeout." Sampson, who resigned this week amid increasing pressure, used the term "bold" to refer to "strong U.S. Attorneys who have produced, managed well, and exhibited loyalty to the president and attorney general." Attorneys ranked as "strikeout" were recommended for dismissal and described as "weak U.S. Attorneys who had been ineffectual managers and prosecutors, chafed against administration initiatives, etc.”
These rankings were part of a memo to White House Counsel Harriet Miers who is believed to have recommended removing all 93 U.S. Attorneys at the beginning of Bush's second term.
bakashah!
Fristies!
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 9:23amDos!!
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By Guy FawkesMarch 14, 2007 - 9:24amSubmitted by Guy Fawkes on March 14, 2007 - 10:24am
You're ranked second.
You're fired!
:)=
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 9:28amby SJerseyIndy on March 14, 2007 - 8:28am
Wrong. I'm Cheney to your Dubya, YOU'RE fired!
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By Guy FawkesMarch 14, 2007 - 9:32amSubmitted by Guy Fawkes on March 14, 2007 - 10:32am
I lose my status as "The Firerererer" on a technicality?!
D'oh!
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 9:53amYou can fire me from my domestic duties
Let me know when I can train my replacement.
"The attitude is we live and let live. This is actually an amazing change in values in a rather short time and it's an example of freedom from religion."--Thomas Wolfe UI
One election at a time......
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By pb_trueMarch 14, 2007 - 9:56amviagra
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By ruperMarch 15, 2007 - 3:42pmby ruper on March 15, 2007 - 2:42pm
Get the fuck out of here spammer!
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By Guy FawkesMarch 15, 2007 - 4:37pmFederal Attorneys
Another manufactured non scandal to replace the Plame "scandal" that after years of wild claims and Hype ended in a wimper. By the way, How many shows did Olberman do about "Rove to be indicted soon" or "Rove soon to resign" Psst...Rove still working int he White House
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By ConricanMarch 16, 2007 - 7:38amSubmitted by Conrican on March 16, 2007 - 8:38am
Another manufactured non scandal to replace the Plame "scandal" that after years of wild claims and Hype ended in a wimper.
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Ended? Turn on C-Span, mulefucker.
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Whoops!
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 16, 2007 - 9:15amJust more shit ! You expected something different ?
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html http://tinyurl.com/dw846
http://www.geocities.com/tthor.geo/debasedmoney.html
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By google mrsickofitmanMarch 14, 2007 - 9:25amThey all commited treason .
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By google mrsickofitmanMarch 14, 2007 - 9:27amSubmitted by google mrsickofitman on March 14, 2007 - 10:27am
I'm a much bigger fan of your 4-word posts.
Job well done.
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 9:30amBurP !! Excuse me ,,,
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PROVIDING aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime is treason. It's not "just politics." It's treason. And signaling our enemies that Congress wants them to ...
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By google mrsickofitmanMarch 14, 2007 - 10:03amSubmitted by google mrsickofitman on March 14, 2007 - 10:03am
Scrolled right by, spammer. Thanks anyways.
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BurP !! Excuse me ,,,
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 10:12amEleventeenth!
I believe that our Heavenly Father created the monkey because he was disappointed in man." -- Mark Twain
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By XanaduMarch 14, 2007 - 9:28amSubmitted by Xanadu on March 14, 2007 - 10:28am
Fired!
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 9:29amEvolution in action
Nobody's questioning whether man descended from apes. The question is, when will he STOP descending?
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By nonexistent manMarch 14, 2007 - 10:11amWhere are those noisy contards
who yesterday were screaming "CLINTON!! CLINTON!! CLINTON!!!"???
Do you suppose any of these sub-human retards now understand the difference between an incoming pres. replacing a former admin's US Att'ys and what's going on here?
Could they POSSIBLY understand now?
Troll monkeys?? Got it???
Nurrrrrrr.
Carpe fidelis!
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By maddog_frenzyMarch 14, 2007 - 9:50amShhhhh
Rush is speaking. They're loading up on their new talking points.
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By cr8fMarch 14, 2007 - 9:51amLOL!
No doubt!
I'm on the edge of my seat to hear how the Neo Cons plan to SPIN this issue totally out of control at this stage of the game.
Carpe fidelis!
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By maddog_frenzyMarch 14, 2007 - 10:09amWHY CAROL LAM WAS THE "REAL PROBLEM": CORRUPT GOP FUNDED PHONY D
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&fo...
WHY CAROL LAM WAS THE "REAL PROBLEM": CORRUPT GOP FUNDED PHONY DEFENSE COMPANIES! $700 MIL!!
Just so you know, Josh Marshall, Joe Cannon, the San Diego paper and I have investigated this scandal and it really leaves all the others behind in significant ways, although lying to take us to war takes the cake.
Because this was nothing less than a quiet coup our democratic system. The Republicans criminally conspired to take over this country illegally. And they did it -- in style, with hookers.
Because the US Attorneys firing scandal has now become intertwined with the Phony Defense Company Scandal of Jerry Lewis, Duke Cunningham, Porter Goss and the entire GOP membership of the Defense Appropriations Committee. In all, about 15 to 20 more Republican Congressmen would have been indicted for being involved with Lewis and Cunningham on all those criminal earmarks.
INCISIVE reporting on this NEW development at the link above.
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 10:33amHG..
And that humming sound we hear is that of a shredding machine..
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By roadgoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 10:42amthe thugs will call that noise
BIG mosquitoes.
The size of Buicks.
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 10:43amGiuliani Law Firm Lobbies in Texas for Chavez-Controlled Citgo
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a4Gvp1ATkE9M&refer=p...
By Henry Goldman and Jonathan D. Salant
March 14 (Bloomberg) -- Rudolph Giuliani's law firm lobbies for Citgo Petroleum Corp., a unit of the state-owned oil company controlled by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, the U.S.'s chief antagonist in the Western Hemisphere.
Bracewell & Giuliani LLP registered to lobby for Citgo in Texas on April 26, 2005, less than a month after the former New York mayor joined the firm and became a name partner, state records show. Citgo renewed the contract in 2006 and 2007 and pays the firm $5,000 a month to track legislation. Giuliani doesn't lobby, the firm says.
The law firm's representation of Citgo comes as Chavez's relations with the U.S. have grown increasingly hostile. He has called President George W. Bush a ``devil'' and a ``madman'' and staged a mass, anti-American rally in Buenos Aires during Bush's trip to Latin America, which ends today.
Patrick Oxford, a managing partner at Bracewell & Giuliani, said Giuliani, a Republican presidential hopeful, has no dealings with the Venezuelan-owned oil company. ``He has not seen hide nor hair of Citgo,'' Oxford said.
Giuliani's presidential-exploratory committee released a statement that didn't address written questions asking whether he knew his firm did business with Houston-based Citgo and whether he considered it appropriate. The e-mailed statement discussed his views toward Chavez and energy policy.
``Mayor Giuliani has been clear and consistent -- Hugo Chavez is no friend of the United States,'' campaign spokeswoman Katie Levinson said in the statement. ``Chief among the reasons Chavez has so much influence around the world is our ongoing dependence on foreign oil.''
No Disclosure
Giuliani, 62, has been active in business since leaving office at the end of 2001, making speeches, running a security- consulting company and an investment bank, and joining the Houston-based law firm. He hasn't yet had to file public disclosures of his client lists, income or holdings.
The U.S. State Department said in May that Venezuela was ``not fully cooperating with counter-terrorism efforts,'' and the U.S. government banned arms sales to the country.
Citgo has been fully owned by Venezuela's national oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela SA (PDVSA), since 1990. Chavez, 52, who earlier this year won the authority to supersede the Venezuelan legislature, has the power to appoint and fire PDVSA's top executives and set policy for the company.
Paying Dividends
Citgo spokesman David McCollum said PDVSA supplies Citgo with crude oil to refine and sell. ``We do pay dividends to them as any subsidiary does to its parent company,'' he said.
Venezuela is the third-largest oil producer in OPEC.
Texas Ethics Commission filings show Citgo paid Bracewell & Giuliani between $75,000 and $150,000 in 2005-06 and will pay an additional $50,000 to $100,000 this year. The firm monitors such issues as environmental regulation and taxes, Oxford said.
Bracewell & Patterson, the predecessor firm to Bracewell & Giuliani, did legal work for PDVSA in the 1990s, before Chavez came to power, and for Citgo before Giuliani arrived in 2005, Oxford said.
Oxford called Citgo ``an old-time U.S. company,'' saying it pays U.S. taxes and employs 5,000 people in the U.S., mainly in Texas.
In September, 7-Eleven Inc., which once owned Citgo, dropped the oil company as its gasoline supplier, citing in part Chavez's hostile rhetoric toward the U.S.
Building an Image
The law firm's association with a Venezuelan company may affect Giuliani's image, which was burnished by his role in coordinating New York's response after the 2001 terrorist attacks, said Linda Fowler, a professor of government at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire.
The question, Fowler said, ``is how Rudy reconciles his heroic role as mayor of a devastated New York with the less appealing image of the corporate shill.''
Giuliani forged his post-Sept. 11 persona with such acts as rejecting a $10 million contribution for disaster relief from Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdul Aziz, after the prince said the U.S. should ``adopt a more balanced stand toward the Palestinian cause.''
A Richmond Times-Dispatch editorial last month contrasted Giuliani's gesture with former U.S. Representative Joseph Kennedy II -- son of the late U.S. Senator Robert Kennedy and president of the nonprofit Citizens Energy Corp. Kennedy has appeared in television commercials thanking Venezuela for providing discounted oil to heat homes of low-income U.S. residents.
The Feb. 15 editorial reminded readers that Giuliani ``scorned money he considered tainted.''
TEE HEE!!! Oh Go Rudy -- go and RUN for President! ROFLMAO!
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:09amHarriet Miers fired investigator in 1997 to cover Bush draft-dod
http://www.gregpalast.com/bush-hit-woman-behind-prosecutor-firings-has-l...
Bush Hit-Woman Behind Prosecutor Firings Has LONG History of Purges to Protect Bush
by Greg Palast
from the original reports for BBC Television and the Guardian (UK)
The Mister Big behind the scandal of George Bush’s firing of US Attorneys is not a ‘mister’ at all. The House Judiciary Committee has released White House emails indicating that the political operative who ordered the hit on prosecutors too honest for their own good was Harriet Miers, one-time legal counsel to the President.
But this is not the first time that Miers has fired investigators to protect Mr. Bush.
In 1999, while investigating Governor George Bush of Texas for the Guardian papers of Britain, I obtained an extraordinary, and extraordinarily confidential, memo to the US Attorney’s office in Austin. It disclosed that, in 1997, Governor Bush secretly suggested to the chairwoman of the Texas Lottery Commission that she grant a contract to the client of a Bush ally.
The Governor’s back-door demand to the Lottery chairwowan was not so easy. Bush wanted the Lottery to grant a multi-billion dollar contract to GTech Corporation. But GTech hadn’t even bid on the contract - and a winner was already announced.
There was only way for the Chairwoman to carry out the fix: fire the director of the Lottery who had discouraged GTech from bidding because of its history of corruption.
The Chairwoman, Harriet Miers, did the deed: fired the Lottery director; Miers then ignored the winning bid — and gave Bush’s favored company the contract, no bidding, in perpetuity.
Miers and the Draft
Neither Miers nor President Bush have ever denied the contents of the memo [I’ve posted it here] despite repeated requests from the Guardian and BBC Television.
Bush’s attempt to appoint Hitwoman Harriet to the US Supreme Court in 2005 surprised many. Not me. Miers, personal and governmental lawyer for George Bush, had quite a file on her boss, and he must have been grateful for her discretion.
Most crucially, she knew why Bush so desperately needed to give GTech the lottery contract. The heart of the matter was the then-successful cover-up of the Bush family’s using its influence to get young George Bush into the Texas Air National Guard and out of the Vietnam war draft.
The memo to the US Attorney reads:
“Governor Bush thru [name withheld] made a deal with Ben Barnes not to rebid because Barnes could confirm that Bush had lied during the ‘94 campaign [for governor of Texas]. Bush was asked if his father … had helped him get in the National Guard. Bush said no he had not, but the fact is his dad call then-Lt. Gov. [Ben] Barnes ….
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:13amLooks like Leahy has seen enough. He wants to talk to Rove.
Senate Committee Requests White House Interviews
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By centeristaMarch 14, 2007 - 11:13amFiring attorneys
Is a good thing, more so when the precedent was set by Clinton/Reno so that they could have their attorneys in place. Plus, what is so wrong with firing someone?
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By dt509erMarch 14, 2007 - 11:17amspoken like a good little Nazi
Now shut up and go play with your video games. Fluffy deep-fried armchair warriors should just STFU and let the adults talk.
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:20amSubmitted by dt509er on March 14, 2007 - 9:17am
Yes just like Reno ignoring the republican outcry over having the FBI investigate the FBI and declaring 'we don't need no stinking independent prosecutor'.
Just like Bill Clinton firing Reno for allowing the investigation to continue.
Is that how you remember history?
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By f u bush2March 14, 2007 - 11:23amHISTORY TO HIM IS...........
The amount of time it has been since he got his fix from the addict. It is written for him everyday. Has a problem with long term memory loss.
THE COMMON WORKING GUY SPEAKS!!! IF ANYONE THINKS THIS ADMINISTRATION CARES ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL WELL BEING, THEY ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.......
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By common_workingc...March 14, 2007 - 12:50pmand again you show your ignorance.
Clinton fired all the attorneys when he became pres LIKE ALL incoming pres do. Bush did it in 2001 when he became pres. Apresident does not do it during his term, you fucking halfwit. RUSH IS A DRUG ADDICT AND A CONVICTED FELON. HE DOES NOT TELL THE TRUTH! DRUG ADDICTS AND CONVICTED FELONS LIE! IT IS THEIR NATURE> THEY ARE NOT GOOD SOURCES FOR INFORMATION! Retarded braindead moron
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By hufflarry2000March 14, 2007 - 11:23amDayum
You're kind of slow, aren't you?
Name me a President who DIDN'T fire the US Attorneys as soon as he took office.
Now name me another President who fired attorneys partway through his term in office.
Both lists will have no names on them, I'll bet.
Ain't politics grand? One side wants to count its chickens before any eggs are laid; the other side wants to kill the hen and have it for dinner. I'll leave it as an exercise for the student to determine which side is which.
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By nonexistent manMarch 14, 2007 - 11:26amAre you willfully ignorant, illiterate, or just plain stupid?
Myself and others have patiently explained why this case is completely different than that of any other president in american history. The fact that you still profess to not understand speaks volumes about you. Since you obviously cannot speak without Rush's hand up your butt, I suggest you shut the hell up. Don't give me any crap like "Uff, I expected better of you". You have shown that you deserve absolutely no respect, and I could care less what you think of me, or anyone else about any subject. Grow up, grow a brain and a healthy sense of curiosity and independence, and then you are welcome to come talk to the adults.
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By UffdaguyMarch 14, 2007 - 11:30amCan you say...COVERUP? Republican corruption??
"The attitude is we live and let live. This is actually an amazing change in values in a rather short time and it's an example of freedom from religion."--Thomas Wolfe UI
One election at a time......
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By pb_trueMarch 14, 2007 - 11:33amDocuments prove White House involvement in U.S. attorney firings
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/13/13636/5650
Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 10:08:47 AM PDT
Documents that were turned over to Congress today prove that top Bush Administration staffers were intimately involved in the firings of eight former U.S. attorneys including David Iglesias of New Mexico, disproving the Justice Department’s prior assertion that the White House played almost no role.
The White House has also revealed that President George W. Bush personally relayed concerns that had been shared with him about a number of U.S. attorneys to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales weeks before the firings. Among those who complained to Bush was U.S. Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M.
Statements made Monday evening by the White House in conjunction with the release of records are the latest in a series of admissions the Bush Administration has made only after the media or others alleged that prior statements weren’t accurate. That failure to be up-front about information has increased suspicion that the firings were political and has caused the scandal to explode.
Read the article by clicking here.
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:22amLAM is the Lynchpin
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013019.php
(March 13, 2007 -- 11:17 PM EDT)
Getting down to the real nub of the story. Here's a clip from McClatchy's overnight piece ...
In an e-mail dated May 11, 2006, Sampson urged the White House counsel's office to call him regarding "the real problem we have right now with Carol Lam," who then the U.S. attorney for southern California. Earlier that morning, the Los Angeles Times reported that Lam's corruption investigation of former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, R-Calif., had expanded to include another California Republican, Rep Jerry Lewis.
Cunningham is currently serving an eight-year prison sentence in Arizona. Lewis has not been charged with any crime. Lam was forced to resign.
In a speech on the Senate floor Tuesday, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said he wants to know whether Lam was fired for the Cunningham case or because "she was about to investigate other people who were politically powerful." Lam declined to talk publicly about her dismissal.
I'm going from recollection here. But I think the email they're referring to is one Paul Kiel and I were reading over together this afternoon. If it's the one I'm thinking of, the email clearly gave the sense that there was an unspoken reason for Lam's dismissal. But it was a bit too vague and meandering to really point to any one thing. The date, though, really speaks volumes.
Lam's firing has always been at the heart of this. I've had a lot of people ask me why we devoted so much virtual ink to this story so early. But the truth is that by rights Lam's dismissal should have sounded alarm bells for everyone on day one.
What people tend to overlook is that for most White Houses, a US attorney involved in such a politically charged and ground-breaking corruption probe would have been untouchable, even if she'd run her office like a madhouse and was offering free twinkies to every illegal who made it across the border. Indeed, when you view the whole context you see that the idea she was fired for immigration enforcement is just laughable on its face. No decision about her tenure could be made without the main issue being that investigation. It's like hearing that Pat Fitzgerald was fired as Plamegate prosecutor for poor deportment or because he was running up too many air miles flying back and forth from Chicago.
Lam's investigation (and allied ones her probe spawned) were uncovering a) serious criminal wrongdoing by major Republican power players on Capitol Hill, b) corruption at the CIA -- which reached back to the Hill, c) and as yet still largely hidden corrupt dealings at the heart of the intelligence operations in the Rumsfeld Pentagon.
Nothing matters unless the investigation gets to the heart of what happened there.
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:25amThey've already got them on obstruction at a minimum, Hobby.
I can't wait to see what happens when they pull this thread some more.
This explains why Gonzo was shitting himself yesterday.
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By centeristaMarch 14, 2007 - 11:29amHarriet Miers makes movies --from prison
Imagine "Ms. Schoolmarm" in one of those really bad *Evil prison bitch* movies.
SHE needs to do some SERIOUS jail time.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. " -John F. Kennedy
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:52amOl speedy Gonzales was funny yesterday
Sounded like he was doing a porky pig impression.
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By gt6March 14, 2007 - 12:17pmSubmitted by HobbitGoddess on March 14, 2007 - 9:25am. |
I was listening to Goyette speak about that this morning. The Duke Cunningham prosecutor and the investigations that were going somewhere.
The other big issue is the addition of prosecutor appointments not requiring senate approval being added to the patriot act. W and congress are both to blame for letting that get added.
It is a governing principle of nature, that the agency which can produce most good, when perverted from its proper aim, is most productive of evil.
James F. Cooper
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By f u bush2March 14, 2007 - 11:30am"Letting" it get added????
Nothing in that bill or the Military Commissions Act were put in by accident. All of them were part of plans that I am sure go back to the PNAC days. As Gonzales' aide said about using the provision of the Patriot Act to appoint USAs without congressional review or approval "What is the use of having the power if we don't exercise it". You can bet there are lots more interesting little provisions stuck in all sorts of bills that will only show up when they are sprung upon a disbelieving american public.
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By UffdaguyMarch 14, 2007 - 11:39amI vote for retro-active abortion
"The attitude is we live and let live. This is actually an amazing change in values in a rather short time and it's an example of freedom from religion."--Thomas Wolfe UI
One election at a time......
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By pb_trueMarch 14, 2007 - 11:53amSubmitted by Uffdaguy on March 14, 2007 - 9:39am
I agree. It was a weak sentence I wrote trying to point out that congress is to blame for letting it get through just as much as the administration is to blame for puting it there.
When this is all over I hope that members of congress take a beating for having let the patriot act and Military Commissions Act through.
But from the administration this was definitely planned.
Here is an interesting thought I had.
Congress members admit they do not know the full contents of bills. They do not have time to read them. Yet W will have up to 50 signing statements prepared for one bill. Clearly he has a team that is aware of the contents of bills. How is it congress members can't find a way to know the contents?
It is a governing principle of nature, that the agency which can produce most good, when perverted from its proper aim, is most productive of evil.
James F. Cooper
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By f u bush2March 14, 2007 - 11:57amThey are too busy raising money for the next election
How is it congress members can't find a way to know the contents?
Submitted by f u bush2 on March 14, 2007 - 11:57am
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By pb_trueMarch 14, 2007 - 11:59amCongress willfully ignores their job
I don't know how far it goes back, but I sincerely doubt that it started in the "do-nothing" 109th. We have learned that many bills are actually written by corporations or lobbyists, and then submitted to congress for a vote. Often, the congressman doesn't know what is in the bill and doesn't care, or knows, but accepts it as it is because it will result in future campaign donations or post-government jobs. Then there is the case of Jeff Sessions, who when asked about the Patriot Act, proudly declared, "I don't know what's in it, and I don't WANT to know".
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By UffdaguyMarch 14, 2007 - 12:19pmHouse Committee Chairmen Say Probe of Fired U.S. Attorneys Shou
http://www.house.gov/georgemiller/rel031307.html
House Committee Chairmen Say Probe of Fired U.S. Attorneys Should Include Abramoff Case
Tuesday, March 13, 2007
WASHINGTON – Two House committee chairmen called today for the congressional probe into the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys to be widened to include the case of an acting U.S. Attorney demoted in 2002 after he began investigating the now-convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his dealings with Guam and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI).
Rep. George Miller (D-CA), the Education and Labor Committee chairman, and Rep. Nick Rahall (D-W.Va.), the Natural Resources Committee chairman, have repeatedly pressed for a full investigation of Abramoff’s dealings with the CNMI and its sweatshop industry and of the demotion of Fred Black, the then-acting U.S. Attorney for Guam and the CNMI.
Miller and Rahall said that what looked initially to them as another example of Abramoff’s excesses as a corrupt lobbyist exploiting his deep ties to the Bush Administration and the Republican-controlled Congress might in fact be part of a widespread pattern of tampering with the work of U.S. Attorneys.
Press reports and leaked emails indicated that the Bush Administration may have replaced Black because he was conducting a criminal investigation of Abramoff and his clients, and because he favored insular area policies that Abramoff and his clients opposed. Abramoff also reportedly helped to quash a classified Justice Department report that Black requested on security threats posed by CNMI’s immigration policy.
At the lawmakers’ request, the Justice Department’s Inspector General investigated the case and found numerous political contacts between Abramoff and Administration officials but reported that Black’s replacement had not been improper. Miller and Rahall believe it is now appropriate to revisit the case.
“We want to know whether high level Bush Administration officials tampered with a U.S. Attorney’s investigation of a corrupt lobbyist,
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 11:27amBush aides OK'd Charlton exit
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0314usattorneys03...
E-mails cloud reasons for ouster of Arizona's U.S. attorney
Mike Madden
Republic Washington Bureau
Mar. 14, 2007 12:00 AM
WASHINGTON - Arizona's former top federal prosecutor was not on the original list of U.S. attorneys the Bush administration wanted to force out, according to e-mails from the White House released Tuesday by Democrats in Congress.
The messages also show that top aides to President Bush were closely involved in the decision to oust eight U.S. attorneys last year, including Arizona's Paul Charlton. White House aides approved detailed plans for the purge, according to the e-mails, which were turned over to the House Judiciary Committee by the Justice Department and the White House.
Congress is investigating how and why Charlton and his colleagues were pushed out in December. The lawmakers are looking into allegations that some were forced out for political reasons or made to step aside to get rising Republican stars into the prestigious jobs.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Tuesday that his chief of staff, Kyle Sampson, who orchestrated the purge, had resigned. But Gonzales will keep his Cabinet post despite calls from Democrats for his own resignation.
"I acknowledge that mistakes were made here," Gonzales said. "I accept that responsibility. And my pledge to the American people is to find out what went wrong here, to assess accountability and to make improvements so that the mistakes that occurred in this instance do not occur again in the future."
At first, Justice Department officials said all eight federal prosecutors were replaced because of concerns about their performance, but they have since changed their explanations, saying some were issues of policy.
Some of the e-mails released Tuesday appear to contradict the administration's public statements: The messages detail reasons for Charlton's dismissal that do not match those outlined by a top Justice Department official, who told a House subcommittee last week that Charlton was targeted over his stand on death-penalty cases and his views on whether to tape interviews with suspects. The e-mails suggest he was removed over marijuana and obscenity cases.
Charlton declined to comment on the e-mails Tuesday.
Democrats said they will seek to interview former and current White House and Justice officials, including President Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, over allegations that some of the prosecutors were forced out because they were investigating Republican lawmakers or because they were not pursuing similar cases against Democrats.
Charlton's office had opened a preliminary investigation into land dealings by Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz., last fall. No charges have been filed, and Renzi denies any wrongdoing.
"U.S. attorneys have always been above politics," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., the Senate's third-highest ranking Democrat. "And this administration has blatantly manipulated the U.S. attorney system to serve its political needs."
White House officials said Tuesday that they had only signed off on the list of U.S. attorneys to be fired, not decided whom to include on it.
The records released Tuesday show White House officials had inquired about replacing all 93 U.S. attorneys when Bush began his second term in early 2005.
But aides at the Justice Department said that would be impractical, and officials instead started looking into firing a handful of U.S. attorneys in February 2005.
On a list created late that month, Charlton was listed with no recommendation to be fired or retained but rather as one of a group of prosecutors who "have not distinguished themselves either positively or negatively."
By mid-September 2006, Charlton's name appeared on a list of U.S. attorneys "we should now consider pushing out," said an e-mail from Sampson, Gonzales' aide, to Harriet Miers, then the White House counsel. The messages don't provide much of an explanation.
The only issues raised in the dozens of e-mails between top Justice officials and White House lawyers focus on his unwillingness to prosecute an obscenity case and his decision not to prosecute most marijuana-smuggling cases near the border unless loads of more than 500 pounds were involved.
A Justice Department aide defended Charlton's marijuana policy in a message to White House officials, acknowledging the limited resources available to border-state prosecutors.
Then-House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had questioned the prosecution strategy in a meeting with Bush, White House aides said in the messages.
The e-mail complaining about Charlton's approach to obscenity charges was sent to Sampson after he had decided to replace Charlton.
Prosecutors in Arizona did pursue an obscenity case after the Justice Department encouraged them to do so, said Ann Harwood, the first assistant U.S. attorney for Arizona.
"I'm not sure if this is the one they wanted us to take or if there was another one," she said.
Nowhere in the hundreds of pages of e-mails does anyone in the administration raise concerns over Charlton's policies on the death penalty or taping of FBI interviews, the only reason officials have given publicly for pushing him out.
The messages also show how quickly fortunes can change in high-stakes political jobs.
Two of Charlton's colleagues who were later pushed out, Kevin Ryan in San Francisco and David Iglesias in New Mexico, were recommended for retention in early 2005 as "strong U.S. attorneys who have produced, manage well and exhibited loyalty to the president and attorney general."
Yet by December, Iglesias was forced out, just months after Republican Sen. Pete Domenici and Republican Rep. Heather Wilson called him to complain that an investigation into corruption charges against state Democrats was moving too slowly.
"Domenici's (chief of staff) is happy as a clam," deputy White House counsel William Kelley said in an e-mail to Sampson in December.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. " -John F. Kennedy
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 12:06pmHay did you hear ? God phucked "TEXAS"
"GOT RAIN" ??? They wont be killing for a glass of water now huh? Califonia is next !
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By google mrsickofitmanMarch 14, 2007 - 12:07pmLet's hear it, neofascists!
Firing your OWN PEOPLE when they question your ethics or the legality of your actions. Just how is that going to spread freedom? Please, all you Hitler Youth. Enlighten us poor, godless libs.
The scary bit is, you could still get the fascist society you seem to want.
(Formerly Liberal Traitor--Liberal isn't treason anymore!)
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By LiberalIconoclastMarch 14, 2007 - 12:18pmhttp://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/16887788.htm
Frostbite, equipment damage end latest Bancroft-Arnesen trek
such lametards, global dickheads.
"We know what you want" lol lol lol
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"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
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By QuetronMarch 14, 2007 - 12:24pmSubmitted by Quetron on March 14, 2007 - 12:24pm
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=6225283&nav=4QcS
Yawn.
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By frazzledMarch 14, 2007 - 12:27pmWTF are you on about, freeper?
Go enlist. The Army takes mentally challenged mama's boys now.
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By LiberalIconoclastMarch 14, 2007 - 12:27pmAwe poor baby, hey ! did you
Awe poor baby, hey ! did you assist with those polousy protests at her damn house? or are you at her office.
Ya baby turn on your own, I'm luvin it, code pink lol
your all such asswipes, tellin ya.
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By QuetronMarch 14, 2007 - 12:32pmGo enlist, coward!
Maybe they'll teach you to fucking SPELL while you're in boot camp.
Still crying, aren't you, you pitiful little sissy? WE BEAT YOU without any help from the media. WE have public opinion now. You are soon to become a true believer...
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By LiberalIconoclastMarch 14, 2007 - 12:34pmSure, up until the reports
Sure, up until the reports start comming after you the troops leave.
Oh but wait, bashing usa and giving the flag to radical muslims and Bashing bush is MUCH more important than if 1 mil or so die after we cut and run.
Hell then you can root away, "wow us "winners""
woot woot woot.
such sad fucks, I hate libs now more than ever, all this constant usa bashing, you got your wish, all because you hate Bush, your liberal run media has made the world hate us, NOT ! Bush.
good job yall.
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By QuetronMarch 14, 2007 - 12:45pmWith all that spinning, don't you get dizzy?
"The attitude is we live and let live. This is actually an amazing change in values in a rather short time and it's an example of freedom from religion."--Thomas Wolfe UI
One election at a time......
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By pb_trueMarch 14, 2007 - 12:47pmHow can you get dizzy with no brain?
Q still thinks there was a Republic Party landslide and the Liberal Media just isn't reporting on it.
Still haven't joined up, Q? Still a craven little yellow treasonous coward?
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By LiberalIconoclastMarch 14, 2007 - 12:50pmSubmitted by Quetron on March 14, 2007 - 12:45pm
Can anyone read what this FReeper is ranting about? I got the part about hating but the rest is gibberish.
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By frazzledMarch 14, 2007 - 12:49pmSTUPID IS AS STUPID...........
Writes...........Qball strikes again.
THE COMMON WORKING GUY SPEAKS!!! IF ANYONE THINKS THIS ADMINISTRATION CARES ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL WELL BEING, THEY ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.......
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By common_workingc...March 14, 2007 - 12:54pmyayaya, your
yayaya, your stupid.
NEXT?
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By QuetronMarch 14, 2007 - 1:07pmThe topic here is our ACTIVIST Attorney General
Do you believe that being conservative, makes it OK for the GOVERNMENT that you conservatives say you hate, to be above the law? Is that what you believe, freep-sheep? You'll make a great secret police informant in the New American Century. I bet you'd turn in your friends and feel like a really big man.
You and Speedy Gonzales can go to hell.
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By LiberalIconoclastMarch 14, 2007 - 1:22pmMy stupid WHAT, Q-ball???
Either finish your sentences or use the correct homonym (did that last word give you an erection? Sure, I knew it wood!), Q-ball!
Why do you hate America so much that you won't express her abbreviation (USA) correctly, or use our official language coherently or correctly? Why, Q-ball?
You think you're so fucking smart, Q-ball, prove it right here in front of this audience; see if you can reply in full sentences, using the correct homonyms, and correct spellings, and correct punctuation. All in English. American English, that is.
Carpe fidelis!
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By maddog_frenzyMarch 14, 2007 - 2:08pmAnd you're an ignorant inbred fuckwit
Bet Mommy drank too.
That's why you're cross-eyed Fistie.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. " -John F. Kennedy
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 14, 2007 - 2:11pmSubmitted by frazzled on March 14, 2007 - 1:49pm
Dunno.
I got as far as "Submitted by Quetron..." and scrolled right on by.
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 14, 2007 - 2:16pmprovide proof
that the media is owned or run by liberals. Provide reliable websites that state this. Which liberals own the media? You are lying again. Lil sissy coward
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By hufflarry2000March 14, 2007 - 12:50pmInstead of ranting and raving with absolutely no point
maybe you should actually learn about the situation. If you had watched Ted Koppel's report this week "Our Children's Children's War", you would have seen Gen. Abizaid talking about how the "war on terror" is only 20% military. The rest is political, diplomatic, cultural. He felt that the Horn of Africa command is the way we should be doing things, not the way we are doing things in Iraq. In that region of Africa, which is a hotbed of islamic fundamentalism, a small group of 1700 US soldiers work hand in hand with local soldiers, training them how to fight. Even more importantly, the troops drill wells, build schools and clinics, and in general, interact in a positive manner with the locals. The result is that the locals love america and americans, and will prevent violent fundamentalists from getting a foothold in their country. I have been advocating that for a long time, Abizaid likes it far more than the approach we took in Iraq, and it is the only way to achieve the goal of ending islamic fundamentalist terrorism.