Round Two: Shadow Boxing with an Empty Feeling

By Beau Friedlander

Now that Sarah Palin has been certified clueless and ideologically dangerous, the McCain camp has someone to race bait and fear monger. What does that leave for our least favorite senior citizen, trust fund army brat Bush-o-matic John McCain? Eye contact, perhaps? Yes!

Will Obama emerge America's most wanted man? If you mean, as president... Why, yes he will!

Will McCain get angry? You betcha! In a good way? Negative. The good thing about time passing: it passes!

Obama's up first. We are in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. It's a final indication of what's wrong with the way Bush ran this country (into the ground). Executives should not only NOT profit, AIG should get slapped for last week's $440K junket, and other companies should get slapped for the same sort of thing, and we have to help Americans--regular ones. Fair enough.

McCain knows anger and he says America's angry (and he's right), but duh. He wants us to focus on energy independence. McCain wants to jury-rig home values by creating a bailout for actual homeowner mortgages. Talk about buying votes! (Or not.)

And McCain just made eye contact with Obama. We're sunk! (Or not.) Warren Buffet as the new Paulson? Why, doesn't he support Obama? I think he does! Hm!! Obama scores a point by repeating that any solution must not reward those at the top.

McCain does not think we should call the bailout a bailout, but rather a rescue. He also beiieves standing in front of Obama may tend to infantalize the young senator from Illinois. Obama looks bemused as McCain talks Fanny and Freddie and how Obama was on the take. Now Obama points out that the credit crunch that will result from McCain's "rescue" plan will close down many a business resulting in more unemployment. Obama re-directs McCain to the stain on the rug of his lies: McCain has the Fanny lobbyist on his team, and he's pro-deregulation. 

Brokaw asks if Obama is saying the future is bleak. He is not saying that. No it is bright, this storied future. McCain also thinks this. I am not running for president, so I can say that I do not think the future is so very bright--with regard to the economic thing.

"How can we trust either of you?" Ms Finch asks.  

No one is blameless here, says Obama, but the Republicans should be blamed more. McCain thinks the system is broken. He is a maverick and now...wait for it!!!...here comes the maverick list! Citing Lieberman does not make you bipartisan, Senator. Not a bit. "Obama's the biggest spender in the Senate. I fight him every day, and he's just incorrigible. Did you know that Senator Obama bought everyone in the Senate a new brand name DVD player for Christmas last year with your hard-earned money?" (Okay that last quote is not a quote. It is a lie. Sorry.)

McCain's priorities: lies. Whoops. Energy? Please. Obama talks priorities, and he too believes energy is important, but somehow there's something more to it when he says this. $15 billion over ten years on better solutions for energy independence. 10 years and we're free. No more foreign oil. Health care is the second priority. Three: Education. What about McCain? Not so much. 

What sacrifices will McCain ask Americans to make to strengthen the country? Programs! Anything that's not working. No more earmarks, like social security. No. Not social security. Wooden arrow manufacturers? No. What then? A spending freeze. No more school for the kids, folks! Obama brings up 9-11 and how we all were ready to come together back then. The missed opportunity: Bush said go out and shop. Not quite a call to service. American's want leadership to tackle problems like a young man, not an old man. Energy is a big issue, and we need more oil, and that includes off-shore drilling and "clean" coal. (Say it isn't so.) And now Obama is going to incentivize saving energy. Fine, but the coal, thing? I know your talking about volunteerism now, but I'm stuck on the drilling and coal thing...... I'll get over it. 

Obama is going to repeat himself: We need to stop acting like that crazy dry drunk George W Bush who said--calling the kettle black--the stock market got drunk. The president needs to set the tone: Everyone needs to pitch in--and it needs to be fair. "McCain wants to cut stuff across the board, and I want to use a scalpel." (Not an exact quote, like the rest of the not exact quotes here.)

McCain: Nailing down Obama's tax plans: like nailing Jell-O to the wall. So funny! Not. Does that count as a product placement? Senator Obama's "secret?" A secret!!! He's going to raise taxes on small businesses. McCain just "delivered the news" to Obama on live TV! The news is bad. Wow. How "Palin" of him. I guess you CAN teach an old dog new tricks. McCain's bunkum line about Obama taxing small businesses: bunkum and Obama just made that clear.

Brokaw won't let Obama talk because why? I can't say because it seems like an unwise thing to do seeing as I live in the same town as the guy. 

McCain wants to give the average CEO a $700K tax cut. Manly! Not only that: McCain can fix social security. Excellent. So, um, why has it not been done yet? McCain talks about how Obama has never attacked anyone in Congress. Well, Johnny did. Remember how he lunged at Rick Renzi? Grrrr. Rhetoric and record? Keep saying that Senator. You're in Tennessee, dummy.

What would McCain do to get Congress moving fast on green jobs and the environment? McCain not only disagrees with Bush on this topic, but also his running mate. McCain like nukes. Nukes good. 95% of our market lives over seas. Think about that. Heh. Wow. 

Obama thinks green jobs the key to future economic success in America and he uses the Internet's development as an example of wise investment in the future. McCain voted against green technology 23 times. Score! Obama is now giving a little peak oil lesson (ish) and now: Sustained effort from the president to make sure we figure out the energy problem once and for all in a sustainable way. 

BTW McCain has not made eye contact that I've seen since he did way long ago and now refers to our hero as "that guy."

As for health care: this one really hurts. McCain wants to tax your health plan. Obama wants you to have a really good plan. McCain does not like Obama talking about government. He doesn't like Obama telling people what to do. Mandates. A homosexual thing? No! It's "that one" telling you what to do. Damn! "That one" will fine you. Won't you cross redlines, er, I mean, state lines, to get away from "that one?" I would. I sure as heck by howdy would cross a line to get away from that guy. And to tax your plan. And talk about hair plugs (crickets). 

McCain's jokes are falling flatter than his.... Okay. Not going to say that. You finish the sentence.

They are now talking war. Huh. What is it good for? Blahbittyblah. $10 billion a month? Iraq has money, let them pay Blackwater to kill the "bad" guys. We got an economy to fix here. Obama said it. McCain stepped in it (when he was hugging Bush). 

Obama doctrine regarding humanitarian crisis and the use of force: Moral issues are always at stake. If we could have stopped the holocaust, who would have said no? Ditto anywhere else genocide is happening: it diminishes us. It is part of our national interest to intervene when possible. There is a lot of cruelty and we can't be everywhere all the time, which is why we need to be better leaders and set the tone internationally, and that happens through leadership.

The McCain doctrine: To hell with that. I want to talk about Iraq. Okay. Now that I've done that: We need to do whatever we can, which aint much. In fact what we can do mostly requires that we stand by mostly and watch the innocent get mostly slaughtered. Because it's expensive. And stuff. Because Vietnam did not work out so well, did it? No... It did not.

Pakistan: Obama thinks this is the place to think about bombing if you're going to show the world that you're capable of doing such a thing. And I believe him. McCain is going to talk about heroes and how stupid Obama is for saying he's willing to bomb folks. Dunno, Senator. You are not saying anything here so far as I can tell.

Oh ouch, ouch, ouch!!! I love it. Finally, Obama lands a solid punch. He said something "nice" about McCain, which the old codger walked into and thanked him--HA!!! Because then, "that one" brought up the "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" thing!!!" Yay. McCain will get Osama bin Laden and, "I know how to do it, and I am going to do it because I know how, because I am Chuck Norris (see, Bub?), and my tears cure cancer, but I never cry." I thought Rambo would have been a more apt cultural reference. 

Here's something I do not understand, and I say this having not only followed the war in Iraq, but having pubished the first book (in September 2002 with Will Pitt and Scott Ritter) against the war. It's a topic of interest. I follow the news. Okay, so I've got this: WTF??? The surge did not work, Senator McCain.

McCain wants to show moral support for Georgia. There are penalties. 

Russia is an issue, says Obama. And he agrees with McCain, but we need to provide more than moral support. How about some concrete assistance? Yeah. And let's see around the corners! Nice one. A while back before Georgia got ugly, Obama said something. Energy is key to dealing with Russia: Less money for them. So there.

Foresight is so useless, though, when a Republican is president. 

Is Russia an evil empire?

Obama: They engaged in evil behavior, and have nationalist impulses.

McCain: Maybe. "If I say yes, we're reigniting the Cold War. Now I will say what Obama said..."

What up if Iran attacks Israel?

McCain: If it happened? Turn our friends into a stinking corpse (magic?). What then? We would destroy them. (And anyone who got in the way.) "And I'm thinking it will happen."

Obama: Let's just stop Iran from getting the bomb? Hm? "Stop them from getting the bomb, we must," says Yoda. How Yoda became such a tall and trim man, I can't say. We should talk with our friends and our enemies. That's part of being human. It gives us a better chance at better outcomes.  

Gentlemen, what don't you know and how will you learn it?

Obama: Michelle has the longer list. The challenges are immense. The challenges that you don't expect consume most of your time. I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for the fact that this country gave me opportunities. I am the American dream. Are we going to pass that American dream to the next generation? And now he gets into a stump speech sorta place. Ah the vapidity of summation.

McCain. He will be worse. No, he will be unbearable. Here goes....

McCain: What I don't know is what all of us don't know: What's going to happen here and abroad. Americans are hurting. I am not. But Americans are hurting. I do not know what the unexpected will be, but I am old. I know what it's like to be rich and alone. Hope is a trans-class thing. America? Give me another chance!!!

McCain steps in front of Brokaw's script, jumps away. Nimble old bunny. 

The end. 

 

 

Comments

(77)

Did McCain just say...

that we're the best exporters?

McCain/Palin '08....Manchurians for the New American Century!

By aaazzz111 October 7, 2008 - 9:27pm

That must be what McCain meant when he said that "some of the $700B bail-out would end up going to terrorist organizations."

McCain/Palin '08....Manchurians for the New American Century!

Oops, too late!!!!

We send 12 billion a month to Iraq. They have decimated their Christian population SINCE 2004 by half to two thirds. They have burned their churches. If not all, I don't know of one that is left. The name of their ruling party is the "Supreme Islamic Council". They have made Islam, by constitution, their national religion. They forced Christian women to marry Muslim men and renounce Christianity. Christians have been beheaded and crucified. When they begged for American protection, Bush said, "I don't want to show favoritism". When they begged to come here, "Bush said, "We need to keep "diversity" in Iraq". These policies have been supported again and again by McCain.

We send 12 billion a month to support the government of Iraq, a terrorist organization.

Article (2):
1st — Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:
(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.

2nd — This constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and the full religious rights for all individuals and the freedom of creed and religious practices. (within Islam)
Article (3): Iraq is a multiethnic, multi-religious and multi-sect country. It is part of the Islamic world and its Arab people are part of the Arab nation.

Robbing hoods vs. Robin

Robbing hoods vs. Robin Hood. I guess we know why Robin Hood was a hero and the feudal lords were the scum of the earth. What I fail to understand is why some people keep supporting the feudal lords...do they really think the lords think enough of their loyalty that they will be rewarded?

Hey frogg...that poster of

Hey frogg...that poster of McCain and the one of Palin that says "mediocre" look an awful lot like the style of poster that was made in the 20's of Lenin. I guess, according to your previous logic, that McCain and Palin are COMMUNISTS!!!!

You really are an idiot,

You really are an idiot, McCain's campaign didn't hire a self described propaganda machine that "manufactures dissent" like Obama did. McCain's campaign had nothing to do with those commie style posters, Obama's did.

What does Obama and Osama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.

Obama and Osama are both untouchable by Republicans

Can't touch this.

You're the idiot. You made

You're the idiot.
You made the comparison in the first place based on a vague resemblance to another poster. Obama didn't hire the artist. The same artist made all three posters based on his own political beliefs. The analogy you drew was false.

Obama Bin Laden, whose family has deep ties to the Bush family, attacked the Pentagon on 9/11. The ties are a matter of record.

When Ayers "bombed" the Pentagon, Obama was a little kid.
Ayers since has become a relatively conservative person, doing community work. The only contact the two have had was in a PRO-EDUCATION group.

If you say people never change, then McCain is still a traitor who denounced the US (under the current definition of enhanced interrogation), Bush is still an alcoholic and a coke addict, Cheney is still a drunk driver. And you are all of those, because you support them.

let us not

concede that bill ayers did anything of the kind. It is of corse a matter of record (and his own admission) that he was a member of the weathermen who planned an attack on the pentagon.

palin pals around with traitors...

also known as alaskan separatists.

When did Obama's friends bomb the pentagon, socialistfrogg?

What no proof? You are lying again. Do you ever, even once in your tax payer supported, socialist life, tell the truth? That lazy socialist lifestyle of yours is coming to a very quick end. You right wing welfare Queens are done. The free ride is over.

Mc Cain is pretty much....

FLATLINE on the CNN 'uncommitted voter' graph (Ohio).

Obama is handing McCain his ass tonight.

McCain/Palin '08....Manchurians for the New American Century!

Yeah, its a wrap!

fork McCain. He's finished.

If McCain were an honerable man...

..he'd REFUND the money fron his doners. Not like he can't afford it. He just got his ASS handed to him by Obama. In McCain's format of choice, debating foriegn policy...McCain's 'strong suite'....

I watched that CNN graph...of COURSE it could be skewed, but from the majority of people I've encountered..... McCain is TOAST. The ONLY thing that could save him now is some machine tampering and a gullible electorate.

He'd need both at the same time.

McCain/Palin '08....Manchurians for the New American Century!

That One!!!!!!!

Classic hostility!
Thinly veiled. God I hope no one's buying.

Is it true?

Is it true that the top 400 Americans became richer by, get this, 700 billion during the last eight years? 700 billion? Now where have I heard that number before?

Thom Hartmann brought that up last week.

You won't hear it on the " liberal" media.

I don't understand

I was telling my wife earlier this week that he should say EXACTLY that. That's a hit

Thats why McCain said bomb Iran

He wanted to get their support

McCain must have Alzheimers.

McCain must have Alzheimers. He seems to have forgotten that HIS party has been in power for the last 8 years and wrecked our country.

Mcain's against followup questions like he's against pork

as long as its not his own.

Has McCain crapped in his

Has McCain crapped in his pants? He's moving very rigidly around the stage very warily, is there a stool in the back down there?

McCain's campaign didn't

McCain's campaign didn't hire a self described propaganda machine that "manufactures dissent"

Gutted that Lee Atwater got a balloon for a face?

McCain spoke and debated well his parties philosophies

as he desperately tried to deny any comparability with those philosophies .... but otherwise I think was trounced on every issue factually. It was Not, "McCains a retard", it was "McCain is Bass-ackwards on every issue". Obama/Biden-3 McCain/Mooseburger-0

Buchanan cracks me up dude.

"I think Obama survived. He lost, but he squeeked by. He's nine points ahead....".

I think thats as close as you can come to "the Buchster" calling it for Obama.

I think Obama survived. He

I think Obama survived. He lost.

I think McCain lost referring to a black man as 'that one'. I thought such attitudes amongst our elected politicians had long gone.

mccain wants to cut $1.3 trillion...

from medicare and medicaid, says the wall street journal.

You know, I just got off work and heard the first half on radio,

I never saw that and had/have no idea anything like that happened. They just mention it in Mcains pointing out and saying,"I didnt vote it,"That one" did",. I missed that. Maybe not exactly a "Maccaca moment".... but maybe it was. I dont know what to say.

"That one"? Sounds like a

"That one"? Sounds like a reference to an inanimate object not a human being. Typical republican racism to the fore...

I like the explanation that McCain feels Obama is a freshman

Senator. This might make it so McCain feels that this is a matter of an under-member of the fraternity stepping out of bounds and doesnt deserve respect. That to me is just as bad and petty than if that comment was a black thing, If not more pathetic.

I think the debate may be

I think the debate may be remembered for that moment. Bad news for the Bushite.

They are crapping over at Fox.

You want a hoot, turn to Fox. McCain said he would buy up all the mortgages and the first word out was "socialism". They are freaking at Fox.

Oh no, I'm currently in the

Oh no, I'm currently in the UK and the only coverage we have now is Fox. CNN and CNBC have switched to sport and finance respectively at the half hour. ANd guess what I can see? F**king Rove, why is his face so fat? Has he got radiation in his head too?

By deanrdd October 7, 2008 - 11:21pm

I'd bet that it was highly entertaining!

I really need to learn how to take the greatest advantage of all of my electronic audio/video devices.

I'm LAZY about that...

McCain/Palin '08....Manchurians for the New American Century!

Obama's lead widens to 7 in latest Ipsos/McClatchy poll

Obama's lead widens to 7 in latest Ipsos/McClatchy poll
Posted on Tuesday, October 7, 2008
By Steven Thomma | McClatchy Newspapers

Obama 47%

McCain 40%

Nader 3%

Barr 1%

Election 2008: Electoral College Update

Election 2008: Electoral College Update
Tuesday, October 07, 2008

New state polling from Pennsylvania has moved that state from "Leans Democratic" to "Likely Democratic" in the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator. With this changes, Obama leads in states with 238 Electoral College votes while McCain is ahead in states with 163 Electoral College votes. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 321, McCain 174.

...

These numbers and the poll numbers of my previous post are from before the debate today.

Rasmussen Poll trend - most recent first

10/07/2008 Obama +8
10/06/2008 Obama +8
10/05/2008 Obama +7
10/04/2008 Obama +6
10/03/2008 Obama +7
10/02/2008 Obama +7
10/01/2008 Obama +6
09/30/2008 Obama +6
09/29/2008 Obama +5
09/28/2008 Obama +6
09/27/2008 Obama +6
09/26/2008 Obama +5
09/25/2008 Obama +3
09/24/2008 Obama +2
09/23/2008 Even

No trolls on this thread?

They must be embarrassed for McShitstain & the righteous ass-whuppin' he received tonight. And here I was thinking that our single digit IQ friends were incapable of embarrassment.

President Obama? You betcha!

Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.

I'll put it this way...

Assuming Crash doesn't walk on water or raise the dead at the next debate, I think we can stick a fork in this one.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

My Liberal troll came out my brain and asked that SNL

do a skit that entails John McCain talking and going "that one", and the actor portraying Brokaw goes,"That one, senator?". And when the camera pans back to McCain played by Hammon or whoever is McCain is waring a KKK hood.....Motioning towards Obama while going,"Come on, you guys know what I mean..... "That" "One".

Wha? Wha'd I say? What?

McSame's tent is folding... His sideshow a bleat in the dark.

John McCain is heading to near-certain defeat in the presidential election because American voters no longer trust Republicans on the economy, a strategist for the party warned yesterday.

G0Pers advised to save their $$$ for another day.

Trickle Down cascades its fraud and failures .

McCrash's "hummanahummana" moment


"Dang it, Sarah! I asked for a NITRO pill, not them Viagra thingies!"

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

What sort of freaks watch

What sort of freaks watch Fox regularly?

Allegedly from their text vote McPain won the debate.

By GedRobinsonOctober 7, 2008 - 11:41pm

What sort of freaks watch Fox regularly?

They're just passing the time in between shearings.

Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.

Latin leftists gloating over 'Comrade' Bush's bailout

Latin leftists gloating over 'Comrade' Bush's bailout
Posted on Tuesday, October 7, 2008
By Tyler Bridges | McClatchy Newspapers

They don't call him President Bush in Venezuela anymore.

Now he's known as "Comrade."

With the Bush administration's Treasury Department resorting to government bailout after government bailout to keep the U.S. economy afloat, leftist governments and their political allies in Latin America are having a field day, gloating one day and taunting Bush the next for adopting the types of interventionist government policies that he's long condemned.

"We were just talking about that this morning on the floor," said Congressman Edwin Castro, who heads the leftist Sandinista congressional bloc in Nicaragua. "We think the Bush administration should follow the same policies that they and the International Monetary Fund have always told us to follow when we have economic problems — a structural adjustment that requires cutting government spending and reducing the role of government.

"One of our economists was telling us that Bush has just implemented communism for the rich," Castro said.

No one in Latin America has been making more hay of Bush's turnabout than Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, a self-proclaimed socialist who is the U.S.'s biggest headache in the region.

"If the Venezuelan government, for example, approves a law to protect consumers, they say, 'Take notice, Chavez is a tyrant!'" Chavez said in one of his recent weekly television shows.

"Or they say, 'Chavez is regulating prices. He is violating the laws of the marketplace.' How many times have they criticized me for nationalizing the phone company? They say, 'The state shouldn't get involved in that.' But now they don't criticize Bush for having nationalize . . . the biggest banks in the world. Comrade Bush, how are you?"

The audience laughed and Chavez continued.

"Comrade Bush is heading toward socialism."

...

Sarah Palin is only campaigning in secure areas

She is only out and about where the republicans know they can win and also in the more racist areas.

By f u bush2October 7, 2008 - 11:47pm

Exactly, she's just preaching to the choir. Look at the areas in Florida where she's currently campaigning.

Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.

By Guy FawkesOctober 7, 2008 - 11:52pm

By putting her out there in safe areas they can claim they are not hiding her.

She doesn't draw flies unless it's the Kool-Aid Krowd...

Debase, you see.

As the seed is planted so grows the tree

McCain puled out of Michigan, How about PA?

Election 2008: Pennsylvania Presidential Election
Tuesday, October 07, 2008

Heading into the second presidential debate, the polling news is almost all good for Barack Obama, and the newest results from Pennsylvania are no exception.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state shows Obama on top by 13 percentage points, 54% to 41%. Following a trend that has been seen all across the country, Obama has gained ground in recent weeks ever since the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the growing financial turmoil on Wall Street.

Just seven percent (7%) of Pennsylvania voters rate the economy as good or excellent while 62% say poor. Only three percent (3%) say economic conditions are getting better while 82% say they are getting worse.

Forty-four percent (44%) of Keystone State voters say the economy is the most important issue of Election 2008, and 53% trust Obama more than McCain on this issue. Only 39% trust McCain more. It is no coincidence that the Obama’s advantage on economic issues nearly matches his overall lead in the state.

Sixty-four percent (64%) of voters in Pennsylvania are investors who have been directly impacted by tumbling stock prices.

...

By f u bush2October 7, 2008 - 11:49pm

Poor Michigan. She said that even with the Viagra McShitstain left her thoroughly unsatisfied.

Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.

By Guy FawkesOctober 7, 2008 - 11:54pm

LOL

He cut one and ran...

Moving the Medicine Show out of Pennsylvania?

Truly not a surprise.

As the seed is planted so grows the tree

Does the elfin like McCain

Does the elfin like McCain count as a small businessman?

Former secretaries of state disagree with McCain

Another McCain Dispute with Kissinger -- Now on Russia
Max Bergmann
October 7, 2008 | 10:29 PM (EST)

... McCain recklessly issued bellicose statements, condemning Russia without waiting for all the facts, while Barack Obama, other world leaders, and President Bush took a more measured approach. Henry Kissinger said the unpleasant fact is that "the first shot was fired on the Georgian side" and Colin Powell said the Georgians provoked the crisis.

...

Henry Kissinger: U.S.-Russia relationship too important to sacrifice over situation in Georgia. "We have a number of common issues that we have to settle, if possible, with Russia. We need Russia for a solution of the Iranian problem. We may need Russia if Pakistan evolves in some of the directions that it might. And it is helpful to cooperate with Russia not just on the [nuclear] question, but on the issues of energy. It is an effort that should not be decided by what happened in Georgia." 9/23/08

...

Henry Kissinger: "We have to face the fact that the first shot in Georgia was fired on the Georgian side. Now, Russia reacted in an excessive manner, but we should not make the whole relationship depend on the pictures that you showed. 9/15/08

...

Colin Powell: "Now, in the current situation the Russians acted brutally. I think they acted foolishly. But it was also absolutely predictable what the Russians would do. You could see them stacking up their troops. And I think it was foolhardy on the part of President Saakashvli and the Georgian government to kick over this can, to light a match in a room full of gasoline." 9/15/08

...

And the Russians have hard rubles.

Thus explaining Kissinger's hard nupples.

Small?

You betcha!
Small minded and even smaller poll numbers!
The trolls are busily trying to spin. The best i've heard so far is that the debate was a yawn on both sides. But only if you've got your oxy handy

Rush said he was through carrying the republicans water

Listen to his show tomorrow (if you can stomach it) to hear him lie about that too....

They stop filling his stash? And who cares?

Too difficult for him to take credit for the defeat.

It is always about the money.

no thanks

fubu, I already have heartburn. No need to exacerbate,

Paulson going-- we need another hand in the tiller...

Brokaw:

....That concludes tonight's debate....

Ol sleepy-eyed John standing in the teleprompter light with the words "That con" shining off his brow.

Brokaw:

....if you will move....

Here's a question for you fags to dodge.

If Obama is so outraged over John McCain's involvement with the Keating Five, why does he have John Glenn working for him?

Obama and Osama both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.

By snoopfroggyfroggOctober 8, 2008 - 4:48am

Here's a question for you fags to dodge.

LOL It's getting so bad for these trolls that they can't even find comfort in a security cap. Pardon the pun. The fear oozes out in every shrill post.

Glenn was the ONLY one in

Glenn was the ONLY one in the Keating five scandal that was COMPLETELY absolved. It is widely speculated that he was accused by Republicans because they were upset that McCain was caught. It was a revenge move.

Are you saying that Bush actually bombed the Pentagon? I guess you are a conspiracy theorist. Because the Bushes are long-time friends of the Bin Ladens.

Nice try, Hitler Youth

Even you can't argue that Crash W. McPhony won that one. Sooo, you distract with outrageous bullshit that no one cares about.

So Toadlicker, how'd you like the debate?


"Good God, John! Did you fart again?"

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Here's a question for you snoopfaggyfag ...

If McStain is so outraged over deregulating and failings of Fannie and Freddie because of 'special interests and lobbyists' why does he have Rick Davis working for him?

"She's Cheney in drag." Me

“If we could have

“If we could have intervened in the holocaust, who among us wouldn’t do it?”

Gee whiz Obama, didn't a few hundred thousand American soldiers die fighting in WWII to do just that? I know socialist dictator FDR kept us out as long as he could, but that doesn't mean that there was no American intervention.

By snoopfroggyfroggOctober 8, 2008 - 4:57am

I know socialist dictator FDR kept us out [of WWII]as long as he could...

Right. The right wing Nazi sympathizers such as Prescott Bush had nothing to do with keeping us out of WWII. It was all FDR. You truly are a complete dunce.

And by the way, why are you and Hannnity such anti-semites?

Socialist dictator FDR?

After the massive failure of 30 years of right wing, trickle down Reaganomics, you wingnuts became socialists overnight. Now the government is bailing out all of you right wing "capitalists". And you, Comrad Frogg, have been a socialist your whole miserable life. You people say you hate socialism and that socialism does not work, but it sure works well when you fuck up and need govt help. Just another example of right wing hypocrisy.

Thanks for proving liberals right about how socialism works very well when mixed with regulated capitalism. Also thanks for proving that "conservative"economics don't work and have caused an economic disaster, just as liberals have been saying it would for years.

Yeah, the most popular president in U.S. history a dictator.

Brilliant comment.
Yeah, the republicans in Congress were so eager to take on Hitler they tried to prevent the Lend- Lease act that would give military equipment to Britain and the Soviet Union. A desire to keep out of the war is why FDR authorized the U.S. Navy to escort British merchant shipping in U.S. territorial waters and explains why a U.S. destroyer was torpedoed by a U- Boat months before the IJN attack on Pearl Harbour.
FDR was so desperate to stay out of the war he had the U.S. Marine Corps occupy Iceland so more British soldiers could go to North Africa.
Nice steaming load of revisionist bullshit, froggy. Did Hannity tell you this or did your brain cell work all night trying to piece it together?

Housing Pain Gauge: Nearly 1 in 6 Owners 'Under Water'

Housing Pain Gauge: Nearly 1 in 6 Owners 'Under Water'
OCTOBER 8, 2008
The War Street Journal

The relentless slide in home prices has left nearly one in six U.S. homeowners owing more on a mortgage than the home is worth, raising the possibility of a rise in defaults -- the very misfortune that touched off the credit crisis last year.

The result of homeowners being "under water" is more pressure on an economy that is already in a downturn. No longer having equity in their homes makes people feel less rich and thus less inclined to shop at the mall.

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