Your Vote Only Counts if You Are Republican

by clammyc
Right up front, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Democratic Presidential primary.
No, what this is about is a rigged playing field when it comes to our elections, and how this strategy of “playing defense” - being reactive to the latest republican election crime and looking forward all while the republicans are already on to the next way to disenfranchise millions of voters who are highly unlikely to vote for them in the first place.
And just when everyone starts to realize that, yes, it is a big deal to require someone to get an “official” (whatever the hell that is) ID in order to vote - just ask the 98 year old nun in Indiana, for example, the republicans are...wait for it... once again on to the next way to suppress more likely Democratic voters.
I’ll back up for a moment with respect to these voter ID anti-voter laws, because all too many people really are clueless when it comes to why it is a big deal to obtain a photo or government or whatever else ID.
Let’s say you live in an area where you can’t afford a car (so you take public transportation), or a city where you don’t need a car (like NYC), or you are elderly and haven’t renewed a driver’s license in years or are disabled and don’t have a drivers license, or are move frequently for various reasons or have been displaced due to, oh, say, a major hurricane - just for a few examples. How are you going to be able to get sufficient documentation (birth certificate, for example), or take the time (or have the resources) to waste an entire day in order to get this “free ID”? Now, let’s say that public transportation costs money, and it is difficult to get a day off from work, or if you are disabled, you may need someone to drive you there and back (not to mention wait with you). And, for good measure, in order to get a copy of your birth certificate (that is, if you aren’t elderly or have been displaced or have moved frequently), it costs money.
Tell me again how that is “no big deal”?
But I digress.
What makes this worse is that by not screaming from the rooftops about this republican war against voting rights, the Democrats are falling right into yet another situation where the election will likely be far closer than it really would be if all eligible voters were allowed to vote and have their vote counted properly - if not an outright loss of Congressional seats by theft.
Stacking the deck at the FEC and then holding the FEC hostage so that McCain can break his own campaign finance laws. And what will be done about it? Voting machines that did not pass certification that were owned by highly partisan private interests, are highly unreliable and have shown an uncanny ability to make close to 100% of its “errors” to favor one party. And why are we still using these machines? Illegal caging, illegal scrubbing of voter rolls, illegal phone jamming, illegal redistricting, specious lawsuits by the Voting Rights Section to hinder minority district voters from voting. And what kind of real, meaningful accountability has there been? Thousands of Democratic voter registrations were thrown out by republicans during registration drives, disenfranchising all of those who thought they registered and were eligible to vote.
More importantly, while the “hanging chad” battles were being reacted to, there were privatized electronic voting machines with incredible results in Georgia. While agressive-bordering-on-illegal scrubbing of voter rolls was being reacted to, illegal caging activities were occurring, illegal redistricting was being conducted and bogus “voter fraud” charges were being used as a litmus test for the US Attorneys or as a reason to implement voter ID anti-voter laws were being passed in states with republican controlled legislatures and republican governors.
And while nuns can’t vote due to these new restrictive laws, we now have another battle to contend with - even more restrictive laws than a photo ID:
The battle over voting rights will expand this week as lawmakers in Missouri are expected to support a proposed constitutional amendment to enable election officials to require proof of citizenship from anyone registering to vote.In Missouri, the Secretary of State estimates that this will impact up to 240,000 people. And in Arizona, where this is also a law, an estimated 25,000+ people had their registration rejected for “lack of proof”, even though they swore under oath that they were legal US citizens. And as I said the other day, the US Department of Justice has only had 40 instances of ballot fraud, and only 20 that were noncitizens in a close to four year period.The measure would allow far more rigorous demands than the voter ID requirement recently upheld by the Supreme Court, in which voters had to prove their identity with a government-issued card.
Sponsors of the amendment — which requires the approval of voters to go into effect, possibly in an August referendum — say it is part of an effort to prevent illegal immigrants from affecting the political process. Critics say the measure could lead to the disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of legal residents who would find it difficult to prove their citizenship.
And speaking of making sure that the proper votes getting counted, lest we forget that it was not just republicans but also republican party operatives in 2000 who were intimidating the vote counters and it was the republican activist judges on the SCOTUS who declared Bush the winner as a result of their mandate to stop counting the votes.
Forget all of this nonsense about “the integrity of the voting system”. There is an all out assault on the rights of people to vote if they are not likely to vote for republicans. It is done under the guise of stopping illegal voters from voting. But the numbers don’t support that. The facts don’t support that. And history doesn’t support that.
It is much more simple - if you aren’t going to vote republican (and more and more people in general as well as various demographic groups are not), then there is a major effort underway to make sure that it is as difficult as possible for you to vote.
And if it isn’t you specifically, it could very well be someone you know.
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The real numbers!!
This is from a blogger on MSN.
"Here are some facts for some of you to chew on regarding HRC "BIG WIN" in a BIG important state:
States & elections won with 60% or more of the vote:
Barrack Obama: 15 States + DC + VI
* Virgin Islands (89.9%)
* Idaho (79%)
* Hawaii (76%)
* Alaska (75%)
* District of Columbia (75%)
* Kansas (74%)
* Washington (68%)
* Nebraska (68%)
* Minnesota (67%)
* Colorado (67%)
* Georgia (67%)
* Illinois (65%)
* Virginia (64%)
* Maryland (62%)
* North Dakota (61%)
* Wyoming (61%)
* Mississippi (61%)
Hillary Clinton: 1 State
* Arkansas (70%)
* West Virginia (60%)
Sorry HRC supporters. HRC "BIG WIN" pales in comparison with ALL of Obama’s BIG WINS."
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By fourteenacesMay 14, 2008 - 4:39pmNow name
all the big, important states that Dems need to win that Obama won. OOPS!!
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By hufflarry2000May 14, 2008 - 4:41pmPrecisely Why
if Shrillary was REALLY interested in the needs of "the People," she'd quit the race, and march off to Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan, Texas, and West Virginia to encourage her followers there to vote for Obama in November.
Will it happen? Doubtful. It's all about Hillary. It's never been about "the People." I hope she enjoyed those shooters in whatever state it is she said she comes from this week.
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By blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 12:12amWhy?
The numbers that MATTER:
Total delegates: Obama 1886, Clinton 1719 (Obama + 167)
Superdelegates: Obama 287, Clinton 273 (Obama + 14 as of this morning)
Total pledged delegates: Obama 1599, Clinton 1446 (Obama + 153)
Your turn. Look at the remaining primaries and tell us the margin of victory Billary will need in each in order to both pass Obama's delegate counts and secure the nomination.
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By nonexistent manMay 15, 2008 - 6:33amHateraide!!
Were talking big wins. Get it through your head. You are probably gonna vote for McCain in the fall because like Hillary, you are in full Hateraide mode!!
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By fourteenacesMay 14, 2008 - 4:50pmno I will vote for the Dem
I have never voted for a republican.
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By hufflarry2000May 14, 2008 - 4:54pmWell
Thats what 65% of the Bigots in WV are saying. BTW those are the same poeple who say that Sen Obama is Muslim. As will KY think too.
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By fourteenacesMay 14, 2008 - 4:56pmYes if Obama is the nominee
racism will defeat him.
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By hufflarry2000May 14, 2008 - 4:58pmAnd that is a logical reason
to vote for a woman who has marched in lockstep with George Bush since 9/11?
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By blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 12:14amvoting records very similar
Actually Obama and Clinton have very very very similar voting records since he entered the Senate. The differences are minor but are touted by "followers" on both sides as though they are great. Pretending that there is a lot of difference between two very middle of the road candidates in the Democratic party is lying to yourself.
If people wanted real change they would have voted for one of the more progressive or radical democrats in the race. I guess voters honestly don't care that much or we wouldn't have either Obama or Clinton still in the race. Neither of them where my first or second choice.
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By thetammyjo1May 15, 2008 - 11:54amyes
Finally we agree on something...lol
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By fourteenacesMay 14, 2008 - 5:00pmDoesnt matter..
Hillary will back Obama. The party will unify. McCain will be stomped into old man powder. You can say what you want about Hillary but I think she DESERVES to get VP. Shes tenacious, she lets the attacks bounce off of her, she has almost half of the Dems, shes white. Obama needs Hillary, we can't afford to run a close race and then have it stolen.
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By jlogan2042May 14, 2008 - 5:04pmNow that is a good idea.
Obama might win with Hillary's help. Dont know if she would want it though.
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By hufflarry2000May 14, 2008 - 5:07pmBy jlogan2042May 14, 2008 - 5:04pm
The last thing Obama needs is two egotistical attention hounds like Billary running around the West Wing. Fuck that. Those two would just detract attention from the shit that needs to get done.
Support the Troops
End the Occupation
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By Guy FawkesMay 14, 2008 - 9:49pmBy jlogan2042May 14, 2008 - 5:04pm
I wouldn't expect Obama to take Hillary after the campaign she's run. She lost and she and her supporters will have to deal with it.
In the end, she'll fall behind the Democratic candidate and so will the vast majority of her supporters.
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By frazzledMay 15, 2008 - 12:09amShrillary as VP
Never happen.
I see her as SecState, or maybe taking Stevens' seat on the Supreme Court.
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By blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 12:15amShe won't
My money's against it. She as a Opra like following. women follow her just because she is a woman. Nevermind the issues. She has tenacity- I admire that. But she will not help the cause. with some token speaches. She wants to help, she needs to be by his side campaigning just as hard as he is. Cuz right now she is not saying vote for me. She's saying dont vote for him. And that's a shame.
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By fourteenacesMay 14, 2008 - 5:11pmThere is hope
In spite of all the road blocks the repugs are throwing our way, we are winning, and winning and winning. When we have the House and Senate and most Governorships we can begin to undo the ill-advised executive orders, laws and regulations and local ordinances. It's not as hard as it sounds. Look how easily Dubya got his way. If HE, the doofus, could do it, so CAN WE!
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By NamaimoMay 14, 2008 - 11:27pmI get to vote tonight
Or tomorrow night, or any night up to the 20th.
Oregon vote-by-mail iis like that. Its sitting in the IN pile,
waiting patiently for me to get to it. I opened it and browsed
over it. Theres a little pencil-in rectangle--Hillary's is first, then Barack's
(alphabetical, not age before beauty, nor ladies first--or not).
A third write-in box taunts humorously next.
Gives those last minute bail-outs to Jerry Brown, or Jerry Springer, one more opportunity...
Theres an INSIDE secrecy envelop, and like those Chinese boxes-within-boxes, or a teaser birthday gift, wrapped inside another, there is this OUTER envelop. This envelop has my name and address, the date of the election, my home address, mailing address, precinct #, and some 9-digit number. I guess thats all me.
And a place on the outside for my signature...a class C felony for anyone
else to attempt, it warns.
So there it will sit and age for a couple of days. Like fine wine...
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By dewbie dubaiMay 14, 2008 - 11:42pmI voted last night
Though I didn't get to vote for Obama, because I'm an Independent and Independents aren't allowed to vote in primaries in Oregon.
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By ArielifanMay 14, 2008 - 11:59pmI remember an election they had a "NO PARTY" affiliation
I was an official registered "NO PARTY" affiliation in Oregon.
That didn't go over big. They had everybody's name on the ballot. I think. Don't recall exact details. No Mail-in at that time.
Had to go to a public booth. The woman who looked up and
handed me my ballot was an outspoken Republican, and gave
me no respect, whatsoever. I told her I hadn't made up my mind
until right then, and thanked her for pushing me over to the Dem side (That wasn't true of course, I've always voted for Dem,
except for that crazy time--if they haven't all been--when I put in a protest warning vote for Perot--but only after Big Guy was already re-elected).
Oregon has never been a real important vote.
The United States is like China in that way. Its really too big to
manage to make everyone feel...enfranchised.
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By dewbie dubaiMay 15, 2008 - 12:41amIDs and voting
Back to the subject of this thread...
Okay, so you feel that old nuns and poor people will not be able to take time off from work or will not have the proper means to obtain a valid "free ID?"
While I empathize with the plight of the poor, and contribute to causes that seek to relieve their suffering, the fact remains that freedom is not free.
some people give their blood and wholeness of body as the price of freedom. Others are ridiculed, threatened, and even abused (Black would-be voters in the South in the 1950s and 60s come to mind) as the cost of freedom. At some point all of us have to pay a price to be citizens. For those of us with means, and who have not suffered under Jim Crow, that cost is paid in our taxes, and in our responsibilitiy to help any way we can to get out the vote each election (like maybe volunteering to drive the elderly to the polls). for the poor, the cost may be to actually spend a day at the DMV and endure the hassle in order to obtain that ID that proves that one is who one says one is.
Let's be clear here: everyone WITH a current drivers' license has endured the same hassle, the same cost, to obtain that document. We've all paid that price. so why should we not be incensed if our government has to give that same right (to register and vote) to someone who has not had to prove who they are? Are you telling me that NO styate offers Saturday hours at the DMV? I don't believe it. I've lived in five states in my voting life, and all of them have had evening and weekend hours at the DMV in addition to daytime hours. Seems to me that if people are complaining that they don't have time to make a point of obtaining an ID to allow them to vote, they have no business voting.
Last election, there were over 6,000 apparently fraudulent votes in Milwaukee County Wisconsin. People voting from non-existent addresses. Dead people voting. And the like. Doesn't it annoy you that the impact of your vote could be cancelled by any one of these fraudulent voters? Or does that the fact that they all come from predominantly Democratic precincts make it okay? Are ethics situational as long as the Dems win?
Keep this in mind. If there were 6,000 fraudulent votes in predominantly Democratic precincts in 2004, how many fraudulent votes do you think were cast outside of the urban core, in the Red counties? I have no doubt that there are just as many Repugnican zealots out in the burbs as in Milwaukee. In fact, if the Repug zealots are motivated enough, they, with their more extensive financial resources, could mount a much more effective campaign of widespread voter fraud across this state, or your state. They are just as smart as the hackers of Milwaukee, and they can figure out how to offset or upstage 6,000 bogus votes in the Democratic urban area fairly easily.
States have offered free or reduced-cost non-drivers license IDs. At some point, we must ask the citizens of our country to step forward and assume responsibility for their rights--particularly for their right to vote.
The Constitution as written gave sufferage only to men, and considered blacks as 3/5 of a man, but only for purposes of determining the number of representatives in Congress. It took nearly 200 years to right those wrongs. We are now at a stage of "one person, one vote." I do not want one illegal alien, or one yahoo who thinks that he or she knows better than me, to take away the impact of my right to vote. I've been a Democrat my whole life, but I have no problem with requiring voters to identify themselves, so that no one's vote, on either side, may be stolen.
Let the pummeling begin. I must be a racist; I have no idea about the plight of the poor. Whatever. I believe that all citizens have certain obligations, and among them are to be truthful and to live their lives with a sense of responsibility to themselves and to the community. How does it serve our community if we do not care if the person voting before us or after us is really not qualified to vote?
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By blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 12:43amBy blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 12:43am
Do you have a source for the number of convictions that came of the "6,000 apparently [my emph.] fraudulent votes in Milwaukee County Wisconsin"? I'd also be interested in cases of voter fraud across the nation and their impact on elections.
I'm just curious because I'm hearing and reading about all sorts of alleged horror stories of voter fraud yet real instances of voter disenfranchisement prevail ...
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By frazzledMay 15, 2008 - 1:03amMy apologies, the number was 4,600
I knew there was a 6 in there somewhere. It was highly talked about on the local media at the time.
http://www.dummocrats.com/archives/000927.php
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By blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 8:47amquick, you better send youe new data to the DOJ..
because after a 5 year megabuck investigation, and repugs breathing down their necks, they found voter fraud to be almost non-existent, something like 40 suspected cases, half of those were reasonable mistakes such as someone forgetting that they registered at a grocery store parking lot and some time later again when someone came to the door. A few were ex-felons who believed the myths about getting rights back. In some states they are not myths.
No, there is virtually no voter fraud but there sure the hell is a lot of republican ELECTIO FRAUD that somehow never gets any attention from the current DOJ. Millions of cases of people having their votes taken from them, either by rigged elections, caging, mysterious overnight reversals of already tallied votes and outright intimidation at the polling stations.
We need a very aggressive Attorney General who will direct the needed resources to track down the illegal activities over the last 8 years so there will be some respect for the law, and the US will not appear to be so corrupt as viewed internationally. Letting these repugs get away with these crimes is like agreeing with them. Edwards would be a good AG in the next 8 year administration..
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By StanjMay 15, 2008 - 1:41pmApparent like apparition
Apparently blogboob likes unsubstantiated urban myths.
OR
Apparently Milwaukee County is too cash-strapped to
manage an up-to-date accounting of its citizenry, that it
must resort to punishment of that same citizenry, with
violations to their constitutional voting rights.
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By dewbie dubaiMay 15, 2008 - 2:06amSee above post
Not unsubstantiated. The Repugs documented a sampling of the total by going to the alleged addresses and taking pictures of -- nothing --! The number was 4,600, not 6,000 my apologies. Either way, any one of those fraudulent votes could theoretically nullify my vote. It was widely covered in the media arond here at the time. And you apparently missed my suspicion that if there were this many in Milwaukee, there were probably an equal or greater number out in the Red burbs. How can we have confidence in our elections if non-existent people can vote? Or if voters of either party cvan vote early, vote often in multiple precincts?
Having an affirmative system that allows registrars to confirm someone's true identity, followed by an affirmative policy of confirming one's identity on election day at the polling place, would go a long way toward eliminating this kind of fraud.
Mind you, I am also highly incensed by Repugnican tactics, moving voting machines; late-night changes in results; police roadblocks near minority polling places; voter caging. However, these tactics do not justify widespread voter fraud on our side. Two wrongs do not make a right.
As to your last point, IT IS A VIOLATION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL VOTING RIGHTS to allow undocumented persons of either party to potentially nullify MY vote.
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By blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 8:58am'Couple things, numbnutz.
1) Why do you assume the suspect votes were for the Democratic candidate?? I say they were all votes for Bush.
2) Kerry won the state by 11,000 votes ... so go ahead, take away 4,600 votes from Kerry, HELL, TAKE AWAY 6,000... KERRY STILL WINS THE STATE.
And just for the record:
"There is not the evidence of an overriding conspiracy in all of this," U.S. Attorney Steven Biskupic said. The task force, however, did find evidence of sloppy record-keeping and poor training for poll workers, who were overwhelmed by thousands of absentee ballots."
YOU'RE SOURCE, NUMBNUTZ!
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By A GMay 15, 2008 - 11:56amBy blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 8:58am
You'll have to excuse my skepticism of any "evidence" Republicans purport to have. I don't trust them on the subject of elections. The fact of the matter is, little or no evidence of substantial or "widespread" voter fraud has ever been presented to my knowledge. This was freely acknowledged in the SCOTUS decision. I would welcome any data but you'll have to forgive me if I take any offered by sites such as "dummocrats" with a barrel of salt.
If you want to talk about complete and sweeping election reform, I'm all aboard. But if you think Republicans in states such as Missouri are scurrying around after the latest SCOTUS decision trying to pass strict voter legislation in time for '08 elections because they're concerned about fraud, I think you're off your rocker.
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By frazzledMay 15, 2008 - 9:36amImagine the UNKNOWN numbers of illegal utility hookups
Imagine, if you will, the UNKNOWN numbers of illegal utility hookups
and real estate scams, by the thieving wealthy, that must be going on
in Milwaukee County. Go to your local utility board meetings and other
board meetings which sway building codes/permit authorization, and
see all th wealthy board members taking advantage of your city's lax
property accountings.
The wealthy get wealthy for a reason. They literally pull the strings to their
advantage, sucking the life out of a community. This is the scariest hidden aspect of your report, blognogin.
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By dewbie dubaiMay 16, 2008 - 1:07amnullification
So you'd rather nullify the vote before someone even gets to the poll?
If voter fraud is so rampant in your world do you really think someone can't make a fake id?
I'm more concerned with the black box voting machines built and rigged by Republican-backed companies like Diebold that magically flip votes in the middle of the night. I'm more concerned with the caging lists used to disenfranchise voters; emailed by mistake to a friend of a journalist who did a story on voter disenfranchisement. I'm more concerned with the Justice Department being used as a political tool to sway voters by unjustly investigating Democrats. I'm more concerned with the games Republicans play to disenfranchise honest and legitimate voters. I can't remember which election year it was but I received a letter from the Board of Elections; I was registered as "Unaffiliated". I was just going to throw it out because I thought it was just a standard letter before an election cycle. I happened to open it and it said my ability to vote was being challenged. I called them back and asked why. I was told that a Republican group sent me a letter and it was returned so they submitted a challenge. They had the wrong address. That's how the scam works. They send a letter to a bogus address and when it bounces they challenge the voter and it's all perfectly legal. If the person misses the BoE letter or just doesn't have time to look at it or, like me, think it's standard issue then they can't vote.
Voter fraud, as evidenced by Justice Department admissions, is the LEAST of our voting worries but causes the MOST chaos for voters. Like the other responder, the more likely account of those bogus addresses was something made up by Republicans. If you hadn't noticed, it's the Democratic districts in which they play their tricks.
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By rafitch71May 15, 2008 - 11:47amDMV Access
I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Corvallis, Oregon, you can't get to the DMV unless you a) have a car or b) wish to pay outrageous taxi fares (approximately $4/mile). The local Public Transit system only comes within a mile or two of the DMV.
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By ArielifanMay 17, 2008 - 2:57ammccain in the membrane.
courtesy Washington Times:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080514/EDITORIAL/702074707/1013
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By dewbie dubaiMay 15, 2008 - 10:08amIT'S AN OUTRAGE.
The McCain's are the wealthiest couple in all the Senate.
McCain returned from Vietnam a hero... AND PROMPTLY DUMPED HIS WIFE for an heiress who never worked a day in her life and WHO GREW FAT PEDDLING THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE DRUG ON EARTH... ALCOHOL!!
=========================
Hmmm... I wonder what McCain's position is on the fact that THE U.S. INCARCERATES MORE OF ITS PEOPLE THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH, MOSTLY ON SMALL-TIME DRUG CHARGES (MARIJUANNA)...
... AND THE PRIVITIZATION OF THIS GOVERNMENT FUNCTION INTO A BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS THAT DRAINS BILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO TURN POT SMOKERS INTO PROFESSIONAL CRIMINALS AND RADICAL ISLAMISTS.
... GOOD PLAN!!
What the hell is wrong with this country??
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By A GMay 15, 2008 - 12:22pmMilwaukee County
This topic reminds me of a story I read in my Milwaukee Journal after the last election. This should make all democrats proud. I know, they must have been set up by the Republicans.
"Five Kerry-Edwards campaign staffers, including the sons of two prominent Milwaukee Democrats, were charged Monday with the election day tire slashings of 25 get-out-the-vote vehicles rented by Republicans. "
I guess the Republicans can just go out slashing tires to stop demorcarts from voting instead of making sure you prove you are all citizens.
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By pollackMay 15, 2008 - 11:33amOne big difference:
Dems do NOT condone such behavior on the part of their supporters, and it most definitely is not part of their election strategy. Unlike repubs, who jammed dem phone lines in NH, if I recall correctly, in 2004, in an attempt to keep people from voting, or the attempts made during primaries this year to mislead voters into thinking their primary was on a different day, or their voting place had moved.
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By UffdaguyMay 15, 2008 - 1:48pmBy blogbobMay 15, 2008 - 8:58am
Not to mention Alderman's uncle paying $5 for votes and Dem. campaigners handing out packs of cigs to get them "on the bus" and go vote. Nope, no voter problems in this State.
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By jerrykramer64fanMay 15, 2008 - 1:55pmVoter fraud is almost nonexistent
It is a distraction from the real fraud: republisissies who can't win an election like men, so they disenfranchise.
RUN BOBBY BARR RUN!
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By LiberalIconoclastMay 15, 2008 - 3:07pm