Establishment Media Desperately Seeking Disunity
Riding the 16th Street bus between venues this morning, I encountered a young woman, DNC delegate credentials slung around her neck, sporting two buttons on her shoulder bag—one said “Hillary ‘08” and the other “Obama ’08.”
And that, as best my impressions tell me so far, is the extent of party disunity at the Democratic National Convention.
Perhaps you have a different impression, and if you happen to be somewhere else this week, maybe a place where your best news options are USA TODAY or a cable news channel, I don’t blame you.
Just take a gander at the number one story on the cover of today’s USA TODAY:
Poll: More than half of Clinton backers still not sold on Obama
DENVER — Fewer than half of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s supporters in the presidential primaries say they definitely will vote for Barack Obama in November, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, evidence of a formidable challenge facing Democrats as their national convention opens here today.
Sounds grim, right? But read past the first paragraph. . .
In the survey, taken Thursday through Saturday, 47% of Clinton supporters say they are solidly behind Obama, and 23% say they support him but may change their minds before the election.
Thirty percent say they will vote for Republican John McCain, someone else or no one at all.
The way I see it, that is an aggregate 70% strong or moderate support of Democratic nominee Barack Obama among former supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton.
Perhaps this lead, from the New York Times, is more to your tastes:
Delegates for Clinton Back Obama, but Show Concerns
Delegates to the Democratic National Convention arrive in Denver having largely put aside the deep divisions of the primary fight between Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, although some hold lingering concerns about Mr. Obama’s level of experience, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll.
More than half of the delegates that Mrs. Clinton won in the primaries now say they are enthusiastic supporters of Mr. Obama, and they also believe he will win the presidential election in November, the poll found. Three in 10 say they support Mr. Obama but have reservations about him or they support him only because he is the party’s nominee. Five percent say they do not support him yet.
The poll, which was taken before Mr. Obama selected Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware as his running mate, also suggests that Mrs. Clinton’s 1,640 pledged delegates are evenly split over whom they plan to vote for on the floor of the convention during the roll call vote on Wednesday evening.
A much more accurate read, as I’m seeing it here in Denver.
Of course, the two articles above are based on different polls, so you might assume that the given biases of Gallup/USA TODAY versus NYT/CBS might account for the different takes on the same story. Or maybe you’ve noticed that the USA TODAY survey is of registered voters, while the Times story focuses on DNC delegates. But my look at the numbers (as far as the two news organizations will let me look, anyway) tells me that the stories with the disparate headlines are based on very similar stories.
The campaign for the Democratic nomination was over-long (that’s the party’s fault, not the candidates’) and hard fought. A lot of time, money, energy, and self-esteem was invested, and with that much invested, it is hard for some to just flip a switch and sing Kumbaya.
But we do not elect presidents by group sing. We vote. And by the measures of both polls, an overwhelming majority of Democrats are going to vote for Barack Obama
So, why the fascination with the “schism” narrative?
Yes, in this giant sports metaphor we call American culture, conflict always seems like a sweeter story than unity. The “I belong to no organized political party—I’m a Democrat” narrative is older than the man that coined that phrase, Will Rodgers. And, if you buy into the idea that the establishment media has a vested interest in keeping the general election race (Obama vs. McCain) close, then stories about possible Democratic defections are a natural. But I can’t help but feel that there is something else, something, perhaps, much more insidious, at work here.
What does it say when you tell voters over and over that some people just can’t vote for an African American? What does it say when you repeat ad absurdum that Clinton supporters, mostly identified as women, are not team players? What does it do to paint well in advance of a possible victory a Democratic president with the taint of illegitimacy?
Besides reinforcing traditional biases, besides incubating distrust where there might have been none (or, at least, little), the repetition of these memes discourages participation in, and the evolution of, the system.
In sum, it breeds cynicism. And nothing kills hope like cynicism.
I don’t necessarily want to start singing Kumbaya myself. I have not been drinking the Kool-Aid inside the Pepsi Center (in fact, I have not been drinking ANYTHING—there is nothing besides a drinking fountain in the press center, and I am THIRSTY). I did see one man here passing out “Hillary ‘08” stickers. There are some divisions over issues inside the Democratic Party. And there are likely a few people here (and I think that is a very few) who will have an episode of blind cynicism themselves and vote for four more years of failed and corrupt Republican leadership. But all of that is so clearly outweighed here in Denver by a strong sense that in order to march the ball up the field (to use a sports metaphor myself), in order to move this country forward, in order to restore some modicum of responsibility and morality to the White House, Democrats of all stripes will be voting Obama-Biden come November.
But don’t take my word for it, read the papers—past the headlines if you must.
Can Democrats unite behind a single ticket this election cycle? From here in Denver, the word is (OK, words are): Yes we can!
UPDATE: Amy Sullivan of Time Magazine—who is here in Denver—gets it right:
Given all that buildup, it may come as a surprise that the Democrats who will gather around the gavel in Denver are actually more united than perhaps at any other point in the past 30 years. When Obama accepts the Democratic nomination on Thursday night, he will inherit a party focused on its determination to take back the White House, and that overarching goal should paper over any lingering resentments or policy differences, at least until after Election Day.
It’s a solid article all the way through. Does being in Denver give reporters a different perspective?
(h/t Ian Fried)
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By wrenchboyAugust 25, 2008 - 8:23pmBy wrenchboy August 25, 2008 - 9:23pm
Nazi!
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 25, 2008 - 8:42pmhmm... your message is somewhat ambiguous
Are you saying that Frist is a nazi? Or are you saying that I am a nazi?
It's sort of a tradition around here to state Frist when you post the first response on a thread.
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By wrenchboyAugust 25, 2008 - 8:52pmBy wrenchboy August 25, 2008 - 9:52pm
Sorry. It became tradition for a time on the AFB to call the FRister a Nazi, and it stuck.
I imagined C(R)appy appearing out of nowhere, with Gaz chiming in thereafter.
Not really, but anywho...
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 25, 2008 - 9:10pmBy SJerseyIndyAugust 25, 2008 - 10:10pm
Thing is, wrenchboy is from Skokie, an Arian and a master of the Goosestep.
Not that anyone should read anything into that. It's a free country. You can be a fascist if you want.
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By Dr_BillionaireAugust 25, 2008 - 9:57pmwow...zero for three!
Nice try, little troll.
1.) As I had stated previously, I'm of Irish and Italian descent.
2.) My family hunted nazis in WWII.
3.) Never been to skokie
Wrenchboy, a contributor to SPLC since 1996
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By wrenchboyAugust 25, 2008 - 10:14pmBy wrenchboyAugust 25, 2008 - 11:14pm
You're not fooling anyone Klaus.
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By Dr_BillionaireAugust 25, 2008 - 10:40pm1.) How did you know about
1.) How did you know about Klaus, my lesbian lover from college? Oh god, you neo con CIA spooks are everywhere!
2.) Why is your hair still green?
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By wrenchboyAugust 26, 2008 - 7:01amBy wrenchboyAugust 25, 2008 - 11:14pm
Lighten up, they're just yankin' your chain. (I fell for it...what...about a year ago?)
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By roadgoddessAugust 26, 2008 - 6:04amBy roadgoddess August 26, 2008 - 7:04am
It's been a year already? Time flies when you're beating Clintons...
**snicker**
(OK. It was there, and I just had to use it)
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 7:48amOf course you had to use it
It is your job to keep the party divided. You will get that big bonus when McCain wins.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 7:52amBy hufflarry2000 August 26, 2008 - 8:52am
Looky here, my bait caught me a trollfish!
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 7:55amYou also got a
President McCain. Fine job, troll.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 8:07amBy SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 8:55am
LOL
They're biting tonight.
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 8:12amIt is morning, troll
It is obvious that none of you trolls has a job as you are parked on this board day and night. You must make a few bucks disrupting this board and spewing your divisive rhetoric day after day.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 8:21amI like this one
Thirty percent say they will vote for Republican John McCain, someone else or no one at all.
So is that 1% for McCain and 29% not voting?
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By gt6August 25, 2008 - 10:25pmAn Open Letter To Thom Hartmann
Yet Another Example Exposing the Dishonest, Hypocritical, and Vindictive Left
Last week, during one of your radio programs, you and your listeners decided to mock and degrade McCain's heroism as a Naval Aviator held captive by the North Vietnamese. Among some of the most egregious and mean-spirited of statements was McCain's appearance in propaganda films made the North Vietnamese, "singing like a canary," as a listener, who called in, put it. It may have been this same listener, who also stated how the North Vietnamese offered all American POWs the opportunity to leave prison, if they denounced their fellow prisoners and the U.S. war effort, as if McCain's decision to refuse this offer was no big deal. You obviously agreed, saying nothing to either correct or admonish the listener and often chiming in with your own comments in support of this baseless and toddler-like rant.
Engaging in this sort of slander and character assassination is not only wrong, it's also slimy and cowardly in the extreme. For unless you and the deluded sycophants, whose thinking is as illogical and twisted as yours, have been a POW, neither you nor they have any business disparaging McCain's heroic behavior as a POW in North Vietnam.
To begin with, North Vietnam subjected POWs to months and even years of unspeakable torture for no other reason than to use them as props in propaganda films, even though such acts flagrantly violated the Geneva Convention (1). Under these circumstances, it was common for POWs to appear in such films. They did so to ease the torture but also because they knew the world would dismiss these films as having been made under duress and how the POWs could use the films to communicate the horrible conditions under which they lived, using code or other means (2).
These conditions were all the more deplorable, when one considers how the North Vietnamese housed the prisoners. Typically this involved placing no more than two to a cell to psychologically isolate the prisoners and, thus, make the torture more effective and communication more difficult. So, even if the North Vietnamese offered all the POWs an early release, if they denounced their fellow POWs and the U.S. (which isn't true), neither McCain nor his cell mate would necessarily have known about this offer, or if they did, the number of POWs, to whom the offer was made.
Even so, it's irrelevant whether the North Vietnamese made this offer to only one prisoner or all of them. The fact remains that McCain chose to stay and undergo even worse torture for doing so, out of solidarity with his fellow POWs and the military's code, in which the first captured is the first released. As everyone knows, McCain was not the first.
This extremely brave and honorable behavior exhibited in the face of savage torture inflicted by an unjust, brutal, and tyrannical enemy, stands in stark contrast to the dishonest, hypocritical, narcissistic and childish behavior exhibited by the left in the freest and most humane country the world has ever known. For it's highly unlikely that such a sorry, puerile, and pathetic pack of losers, of which the left is now comprised and you are among the most prominent, would display even a tiny fraction of the fortitude displayed by McCain, even if the cause was something in which the left believed.
So your actions and those of your drone-like followers to make light of McCain's war-time sacrifice says far more about you and the left, than it does McCain. Indeed, the baseless and mean-spirited comments made by you and the delusional dolts, who agree with you, shows how the left will stoop to anything - no matter how vile, disgusting, scummy, and low - if it can destroy those, who stand between the left and power, something the left has no business having, given its daily trafficking in half truths and outright lies.
But to you and the left, I'm fairly certain this criticism means nothing. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the left finds such criticism funny, since to the left, dishonesty, hypocrisy, and slander is just Standard Operating Procedure (SOP).
(1) There's no moral equivalency or comparison, whatsoever, with the beastly torture inflicted by the North Vietnamese on American POWs for purely propaganda purposes and the waterboarding we used on two to three terrorists (for no more than 30 minutes each) captured in Afghanistan to obtain information that saved thousands of innocent lives. Unlike the North Vietnamese, we implemented the latter after much debate between factions in the Administration, review by legal scholars, and notification to select members of Congress. Thereafter, the debate occurred much more publically, involving all branches of government and the public. Being a totalitarian dictatorship, the North Vietnamese carried out nothing even remotely like this.
(2) During one film, an American POW blinked his eyes in Morse Code to spell out the word, "torture."
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By SheddAugust 25, 2008 - 11:52pmAh, the sophist has been heard from again
Answer me a few questions.
* Why, of all the people on the flight deck of the USS Forrestal on that fateful day in October 1967, was Jukebox Johnny McFlameout the only one NOT to receive a commendation for valor?
* Why was Jukebox Johnny McFlameout airlifted to the USS Oriskany along with the critically injured, even though he himself was NOT injured in any way?
* Why has Jukebox Johnny McFlameout never attended a memorial service or reunion of Forrestal sailors?
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manAugust 25, 2008 - 11:57pmBy nonexistent manAugust 26, 2008 - 12:57am
shedd always coats his long winded rants with too many adjectives. Look at his opening sentence. I guess he thinks if he uses enough adjectives people will ignore his idiotic arguments about Iraq having verifiable links to Al Qaeda that were MEANINGFUL.
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 12:34amLet's Do a Deal
I'll cut back on the adjectives (even though they're completely appropriate) in my posts, if you start using the whole facts (not just half truths) in yours. Whaddya say?
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By SheddAugust 26, 2008 - 9:48amSo you are saying
that torture DOES NOT work? Are you straying from the propaganda? Your masters dont like that in their sheep.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 9:51amBy SheddAugust 26, 2008 - 10:48am
"I'll cut back on the adjectives (even though they're completely appropriate) in my posts, if you start using the whole facts (not just half truths) in yours. Whaddya say?"
Interesting, it's somehow fair and balanced despite being an unequal trade?
Historically, I don't believe your misrepresentations and false statements have been confined to adjectives.
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By Dr_BillionaireAugust 26, 2008 - 10:58amSo then, SmegmaHedd...
You're going to shut the fuck up and enlist?
Didn't think so. But what else could I expect from the son of such lowlife? Pussy.
News fer ya, Smeg...you 've helped me to make a decision. I've never done it before, but you know my position is pretty secure where I am, and I think I'm going to be your worst nightmare. This fall, I plan to use such influence as I have in my classes , to CREATE LIBERALS! MUHAHAHAHA!
Stop me if you can, gutless wonder. As your cowardly deserter (p)Resident says, "BRING IT ON!"
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastAugust 26, 2008 - 1:34amLib Icon
1.) Other than using him as an organic mine probe, what use would military use Shedd for? Given his terrible ability with sticking to his chosen topics in his own writings, I'm pretty sure he'd be a terrible shooter.
2.) I like your idea, but my college is already very liberal. I may need to start an outreach program, to achieve goals similar to yours.
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By wrenchboyAugust 26, 2008 - 7:08amSubstance?
At the risk of being accused of "houndog sensibilities have been offended" (again), it is rather pathetic to see that the only response to Shedd's rantings seems to be insults, obscenities and really, really dumb "go join the marines" comments.Personally I would like to see the criticisms of McCane's (don't know why the Dems haven't picked up on this great visual in describing the old geezer) POW behavior - just go away. It is unseemly and totally irrelevant to the campagin (yeah I know McCane mentions being a POW, but he doesn't dwell overmuch on the experience).
Hartmann has been over the top lately on topics like this - I'm no Corsi fan (the man is a bumbling idiot for the most part), but to repeat and re-repeat the odiferous (and incorrect) charge that Corsi was convicted of child pornography is just so, well, Republican.
You are a college professor? Sounds like describing Chris Mattews and Bill O'smiley as "journalists".
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 7:50amBy houndog August 26, 2008 - 8:50am
Pathetic is your seeming desire to defend such inanity.
Not surprising given your track record here, but pathetic nonetheless.
Personally, I'd like to see you and your parrot points just go away.
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 7:54amExhibit A
It's great when you guys continue to make my points for me.
Thanks.
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 9:06amBy houndog August 26, 2008 - 10:06am
You're welcome, polly. Want a cracker? bebe's available...
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 9:12amGo away troll!
Stop disrupting this board with your pro McCain propaganda.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 9:41amBy hufflarry2000 August 26, 2008 - 10:41am
Poor anusleaky. Him no likey when I bust on his new buddy bebe. Losing make larry looney.
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 9:55amStop trolling this board!
Your divisive propaganda has no place here, neocon.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 10:07amHey SJ
Is Everyone ont this board now a troll (according to huffy)? My kids had a huffy years ago and loved it until the wheels fell off - kinda like our little huffy...
And, of course, Hillary....
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 11:01amYou have always been a troll
but you are second or third string, not a highly paid full time troll like SJ and FU. You are not capable of doing the damage to the party like they are.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 11:06amBy hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 12:06pm
LOL
Huff's locked himself in his room and won't come out until everyone says Hillary is the nominee.
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 11:09amBy f u bush2 August 26, 2008 - 12:09pm
Huff's locked himself in his room and won't come out until everyone says Hillary is the nominee.
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:lol:
Twoderful!
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 11:26amHey -
You "full time highly paid trolls" are having all the fun!
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 11:27amSo-o-o-o
SJ and FU are newbie trolls! Even better.
And the wheels on the huffie go round and round, round & round, round and......ooops, the wheels on the huffie just fell off!
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 11:11amGee
I thought my "McCane" idea was a good one (complete seeing eye dog).
Guess I'll have to work on my "pro McCain propaganda".
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 9:55amShedd's diatribe
though long winded is utterly devoid of substance. In order to respond more specifically to it, there would have to be substance.
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By gt6August 26, 2008 - 8:48amBy houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 8:50am
Good one, poundpuppy! Yeah, he only brings it up when he faces a tough question that's completely unrelated to his time as a POW. This seems to be a daily occurence.
Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.
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By Guy FawkesAugust 26, 2008 - 10:13amBy Guy FawkesAugust 26, 2008 - 11:13am
In fairness, McCain mostly lets others present the POW qualification and excuse arguments.
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By Dr_BillionaireAugust 26, 2008 - 10:56amBy Dr_BillionaireAugust 26, 2008 - 11:56am
Surrogates certainly do their part, but Johnny is constantly bringing it up himself, too.
But I was a POW, Dammit!
Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.
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By Guy FawkesAugust 26, 2008 - 11:29amBy Guy FawkesAugust 26, 2008 - 11:13am
We got a two for one pound puppy special today. On another thread HD was proclaiming the "islamofascists" are on the run...
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 10:59amUhhhh, yeah
"On another thread HD was proclaiming the "islamofascists" are on the run..."
Not sure what you would call a drop in casualties from 66 to 5 and conversion of the Mahdi militia to a social organization, but it kinda says to me
"Islamofascists on the run, time to bring the troops home"
You are having a problem with this?
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 11:51amThere is no such thing as Islamofascists.
That make believe word just sounds stupid. You are absolutely a third string troll.
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By hufflarry2000August 26, 2008 - 12:40pmOK, So what do you want to call them?
Islamo-beheaders, torturers and oppressors of women?
Islamo fanatics?
Islamo-trolls?
Excuse me for offending the sensibilities of those who consistently refer to Repugnicans as Nazis.
You guys are so cute when you're stupid.
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By houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 2:58pmBy houndogAugust 26, 2008 - 12:51pm
chuckle
This is a right wing term for something that doesn't exist. Furthermore the bloodshed in Iraq is alive and well. The US troops are taking fewer casualties but the mess we created still exists. Meanwhile in Afghanistan the number of US casualties is on the rise...
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 12:44pmBy Shedd August 26, 2008 - 12:52am
You're silly. Bush and Cheney and even McCain don't believe John Sydney was tortured.
If you change your claim to read that John McSame was enhancely interrogated, I'll give your post a second of thought before dismissing it as I do the rest of them.
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 26, 2008 - 7:50amBy SheddAugust 26, 2008 - 12:52am
shedd still thinks the swift boat veterans book is definitive. When shown the truth of the matter, shedd did his typical job of ignoring the evidence and references, only to ask for the information he had already ignored. One of the many examples of shedd's insanity.
Concerning McCain specifically, I have yet to see one right winger address the issue I have brought up. The right wingers support torture despite many experts who tell us is less effective than other methods. So I ask them to address McCain admitting to being a baby killer under torture. If torture works then he was telling the truth about being a baby killer. If he was lying to escape the torture then torture doesn't work.
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 8:06amBy SheddAugust 26, 2008 - 12:52am
With apologies to those who have read this before, I feel it necessary to repeat what my brother, who's in the C.I.A., says about voting for a P.O.W. - DON'T DO IT!
After being tortured, P.O.W.'s tend to be nuts, crazy, irrational, erratic (put your own description here) - just like John Cindy McCain. To those who plan to vote for McCain - do you really want this hot-headed man to have his finger on the button? I guess his reinstigating the draft will take care of your future.
"This administration is doing everything we can to end the stalemate in an efficient way. We're making the right decisions to bring the solution to an end."
George W. Bush
Washington, D.C.
April 10, 2001
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By houndmommaAugust 26, 2008 - 8:43amSCREW YOU JERK.
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Since McCain has been in the Senate, he has been involved with one scandal after another, Keating, Suncore, EADS.
What's worse, his voting record against our soldiers is criminal.
If McCain is elected president, he will leave this country EXACTLY the same way he left the Forrestal.
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By deanrddAugust 28, 2008 - 8:43amGunmen fire on U.S. vehicle
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 12:47amJulius Caesar understood the principle:
Divide and conquer.
That's how the RepubliCANTs intend to keep the White House.
As a very wise man said over 200 years ago, we MUST hang together, or we will assuredly hang separately.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manAugust 26, 2008 - 3:45amA poll
Was Hillary arrogant to assume she was next in line for the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton presidency?
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 8:29amHere's an instructional video
Why Hillary Lost. Period.
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By f u bush2August 26, 2008 - 8:43amHey look! Bebe's kids are on TV!
A little nazi son with each common-law wife, all doing Daddy and Jesus's bidding...
Nutless Rednecks Caught Trying To Kill Obama
Isn't it cute? They all want to be just like Daddy...
Way to go, bebehomey! Way to raise your "family."
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By LiberalIconoclastAugust 26, 2008 - 2:24pmWORST CONVENTION EVER
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This was the worst convention in history.
Let me explain something. People want to feel safe. Even though we KNOW the Republicans have made us less safe, devastated our Armed Forces, bankrupted our economy, still they come out fighting. People respect that.
If I hear “resonate” once more, I am going to puke. We don’t need to hear “kum by ya” and “let’s open the window to the bright and shiny light that is tomorrow’s day”.
We need to hit the Republicans.
DICK CHENEY WAS NOT MENTIONED ONCE.
GUANTANAMO TORTURE WAS NOT MENTIONED ONCE.
I heard Katrina mentioned only once and as part of a laundry list of words.
I NEVER HEARD WALTER RIED MENTIONED ONCE.
I NEVER HEARD THAT WE WERE MISLED INTO IRAQ.
I NEVER HEARD THAT IT’S A CRIME THAT WE HAVEN’T CAUGHT BIN LADIN.
Instead, there is all this fucking “reaching out” and “let’s heal the wounds”. Barf!
This is a political race to throw out of office terrible people that have greatly damaged our country.
When the Republicans start next week, they will brand Obama a Sunni Terrorists on the side of those that took out the WTC. They will tie him to Wright and Rezko. And they will be playing hardball.
This convention was so soft and so retarded; the Democrats may not be able to recover.
If you think Obama is going to give a hard-hitting speech tonight, forget it. It will be another of those puke filled, “We are the World” speeches.
We are going to have four years of McCain. And then Hillary will get another shot. Believe me, I am most definitely NOT a Hillary supporter, but at least she knows how to play hardball.
This convention has left me terribly sad that Democrats, with all their ideals could be so weak and spineless.
Bill Clinton almost played hardball but didn’t. Joe Biden absolutely didn’t.
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By deanrddAugust 28, 2008 - 8:45amBy deanrdd August 28, 2008 - 9:45am
Seriously, dean: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
It's getting awfully tiring watching you log in each morning just to post a comment which makes it clear to readers that you are paying absolutely no attention to the convention.
Seriously: What. Fucking. Convention. Are. You. Watching.
?
Clearly not the Democratic convention. And, if you are, you must be watching it on one of the channels that focuses less on the convention and more on the pundits talking about the convention.
Everything...everything you have been mentioning has been touched upon.
Turn off the CNN. Turn off the MSNBC. Turn off the FauxNews.
Do us a favor and turn on C-Span for coverage.
This way, you'll save us all the time it takes to read through your posts filled with nothing more than uninformed handwringing.
Jesus H. Christ.
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By SJerseyIndyAugust 28, 2008 - 9:09amBy SJerseyIndyAugust 28, 2008 - 10:09am
I have an August 28th BDB for you.
"Barak Obama determined to speak in Denver Tonight."
That BDB is a historical document
You're not out here in Denver right? Tonight looks smogalicious.
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By Dr_BillionaireAugust 28, 2008 - 1:16pm