On Bill Clinton

By Booman Tribune

Personally, I don't know how much of it is hype and how much of it is real, but stories about Bill Clinton's bruised feelings (like his dissatisfaction with the theme for his convention speech) have the perverse effect of raising the bar on the expectations for his convention speech. The former president's convention speech could well be his last high profile speech as an American politician. If it is not received well, it will do lasting damage to his legacy. I don't doubt that Bill is having a harder time reconciling himself to the primary loss than Hillary. Hillary was not impeached. It was Bill that had the great emotional need for redemption and acceptance that a restoration would bring. It must be painful for him to realize that there will be no full redemption. In some ways, Bill Clinton is a partly innocent victim of the failures of the Democratic Party as an opposition party during the Bush years. He's only partly innocent because it was his wing of the party that was the most egregiously spineless and accommodating. To use but one example, it was Lanny Davis (as the only Democrat serving on President Bush's Privacy and Civil Liberties Board) who gave the administration a clean bill of health on their warrantless wiretapping programs. The Bush administration's poor stewardship of the economy and their atrocious foreign policy have both served to highlight the weaknesses in the Clinton Administration's policies, while squandering or reversing the strengths. This, too, has done lasting (and not fully deserved) damage to the Clinton legacy. Bill Clinton is very disturbed by the tarnish on his record, and he's frustrated that he won't have the opportunity to work on buffing it to a new shine. But, if you think about it, the best, and perhaps last, opportunity to repair the damage will be in his speech at the convention. A gracious and effective speech can do wonders. Remember Al Gore's concession speech in 2000? That's the kind of template Bill Clinton should be looking at when he thinks about the impression he wants to leave for posterity. I know Bill Clinton has one last magnificent performance left in him. I hope he seizes the chance.

Comments

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So True

" I don't doubt that Bill is having a harder time reconciling himself to the primary loss than Hillary. Hillary was not impeached."
Boo,
So true...except that I don't think the impeachment thing had any thing to do with it as far as democrats concern.

I think the Clintons close association with the Bush family is what turned off many democrats.

For me, the final straw was him going behind closed doors during the 9/11 commission pretty much letting GW Bush off the hook for his failures to protect the country on that tragic day.

I hope Obama learns a lesson from Bush on how to associate with republicans.

It's a sad story for the dems because he really had two successful campaigns in 1992 and 1996 that I not so confident that Obama can repeat.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 25, 2008 - 10:21am

It's a sad story for the dems because he really had two successful campaigns in 1992 and 1996 that I not so confident that Obama can repeat.
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I tend to want to agree. I'm not so confident that Obama will repeat an election victory by only getting less than 50% of the vote. He'll likely trounce that.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

WE AGREE!!!

"getting less than 50% of the vote"
SJ,
You make a good point. He did a great job in the electoral count but never pulled a majority of popular vote.

How, much of the third party vote would he had received if the strong third party candidate wasn't in the race?

While I brought the point up, would you care to project what you think Obama may get?
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 25, 2008 - 10:35am

How, much of the third party vote would he had received if the strong third party candidate wasn't in the race?
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I'm not sure of the relevance, and one can only speculate, but maybe it would've been enough to put him over 50%. Or not.

While I brought the point up, would you care to project what you think Obama may get?
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This early? No, I wouldn't care to do so.
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Help

"This early? No, I wouldn't care to do so."
SJ,
I am concerned...what would you say to a person that believes that Obama's results will be closer to John Kerry's than Bill Clinton's?
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By KvnRJohnso407 August 25, 2008 - 11:49am

...what would you say to a person that believes that Obama's results will be closer to John Kerry's than Bill Clinton's?
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I wouldn't say anything. I'd let Demosthenes say it:

"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true."

____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Wrong Answer

SJ,
I think the correct response for you would have be what you stated earlier which is that is too early to determine out come.

Because, if you say it's too early to determine the results ---- how can you turn around and express your displeasure with my concerns.

To the AAR Blogger, are all Obama supporters like this guy that is driven by hatred of the clintons?

If not, please, post to voice your opinion..... Is this the kind of CHANGE Obama really wants.

Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 25, 2008 - 12:23pm

I have an idea:
take your "concerns" someplace where others can't see right through them, troll.
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

By SJerseyIndyAugust 25, 2008 - 12:48pm

He's quite transparent, no?

Spanks

By Guy Fawkes August 25, 2008 - 1:00pm

The giveaway wasn't the fact that his activity has largely, if not entirely, been devoted to fanning the flames of discontent and division ever since his arrival here, was it?

I have to say:
I do enjoy the service interruption that coincides with his being present and active.
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Obama Supporters!!!

You guys are Obama supporters?

...is this the kind of change we have facing us.

You sound and react like republican'ts.

Are all Obama people like these two?

Hey you two, please go back and review the obama speech at the 2004 convention where he said that was are all americans. It was implied that it included democrats.

Well, if he can't get you to believe that even hillary supporters are democrats....how in the hell is going to work with the republicans.

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By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 2:02pm

Go vote for Obama. That's all you have to do.

Sorry...it's too early

FUB2,
I am no robot to any of these new kind of media glitter candidates or POLLITICIANS.

I will definately sit back and wait to see how Obama run his campaign.

A weak democratic president will be blamed for all the errors of the previous eight years.

Unlike you, my mind is open on Obama.

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By KvnRJohnso407 August 25, 2008 - 5:59pm

I will definately...
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That's how hatey always use to spell it.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 5:40pm

That's how hatey always use to spell it.

I think the other day we got a misusage of "your" also.

Also I do believe it is hatey because if you let him go on, he will ask you never ending questions that go nowhere.

Wow you guys are so bright!!

How did you figure that outtt ....why are you guys wasting your time at site instead of NSA fighting the so-called war on terror!!!

You know, maybe you did get my IP address and changed the spelling to support your crazy logic!!!

Tanks

By SJerseyIndyAugust 25, 2008 - 6:04pm

Next thing you know we'll be reading about those candlelight dinners with Maya & Martin on the fictional Richmond/Oakland border.

Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.

Great Job

Seem that you got my IP site to support the crazy logic of the previous two posts from your buddies about his Hatley guy.

If you guys are so sure of that why don't you go to the AAR support and confirm you theory.

Be sure to them how you hunt for IP addresses of bloggers you don't like.

I sure they will love that!!!

Yeah...
Thanks
PS-Tell us AAR Blogger that are not familar with Hatley and those candele dinners.

By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 6:33pm

You're doing a good job.

I'm almost positive that I would have been offended had I been able to decipher whatever the fuck it was that you were trying to say.

Spanks

By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 2:02pm

Get the fuck off our blog, you sack of shit. Every time you come here you slow it down to the pace of a McSame thought process. The No Quarter blog will welcome a dipshit like you with open arms.

Support the Troops.
End the Occupation.

Support your words with Facts not Emotions!!!

"The giveaway wasn't the fact that his activity has largely, if not entirely, been devoted to fanning the flames of discontent and division ever since his arrival here, was it?"
SJ,
Give examples to support your position.

I thought that I was trying to bring the supporters of candidates that I didn't vote for together.

Is that impossible?

Is your hatred for clintons, which is well documented, preventing you from addressing my true motives of party unity?

It's like Obama asking questions about the Iraq war and he is call un-american which is effectively driving down his poll numbers!!!
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 2:14pm

You're doing something to this board. Every time you are active, it slows down. And you are a concern troll. You are saying you are an Obama supporter and against the Clinton's to boot, and you keep bringing up the position of the bitter Hillary supporter. You are couching your concerns so that you can't be pinned down. The only people bringing up Clinton now are bitter Hillary supporters and republicans trying to stir up shit.

Are you insane?

The people bringing up Clinton are you hate filled Obamacons. You cant let it go!

By hufflarry2000August 25, 2008 - 2:21pm

Right!

Who comes in here everyday whining about who got more votes in the primary states?

By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 2:14pm

All right, fuckwit. I'm tracking down your IP address. You've fucked this blog up long enough.

Spanks

And

"All right, fuckwit. I'm tracking down your IP address."
Guy,
And what are you going to do once you get it!!!!

Thanks to Obama FISA cavein....just check with your friend at the white house to save all that work.

Thanks

Guy

"All right, fuckwit. I'm tracking down your IP address."
Guy,

I am trying to find that IP address on the side of the modem....

but while we are waiting, check with your friends at the following site: www.whitehouse.gov

Hope that was some help.
Thanks
PS-No wonder no one wants to post any comments on this site.

You and the sex remarks

"You've fucked this blog up long enough. "
Guy,
Your hatred with Bill Clinton is driven by the fact that he is getting more than you!!!

Well, guess they returned the call from the white house because my computer is slowing down now..... :-(

Better give it a rest!!!

See you in a few!!!
Thanks

umm... dude? AND back to the conversation thread

1.) Most of us are yelling at the hillary supporters, not bill clinton.3.)
2.) I'd like to see you prove that we hate bill due to sex envy.
3.) I'd like to imagine that it's quality, not quantity of the encounters that matter.

I suggest you go back to troll school, as you aren't very good at trolling.

I suggest that you and the rest of hte sock puppet look to your own, as it would appear the Neo con days are numbered.

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Returning to the thread, I believe that Bill clinton giving a speech on national security is a mis-match of talent to topic. How say the rest of you?

give me lever, and a place to stand...

Cutt from the mold!!!

Wrench,
Another Obama supporter ganging up on a person that wanted a great joint ticket of Obama/Clinton!!!

I thought the last poll I saw on the topic indicated that a large majority of democrats thought that was a great idea.

I don't like bill clinton....but I don't hate him....because I am a DEMOCRAT!!!
Thanks
PS-Trying to help your buddies out because they are getting whipped(and liking it). Change the subject in the middle of exchanges instead of starting your own. Not bad!!!

the troll that is kvn....

1.) I'm not ganging up on you, I am merely correcting your surfeit errors, and castigating you for trying to be a troll (and you are failing said attempt.)

2.) Bill clinton can't be on the ticket, because he has served two terms. In the USA, you can only serve for two terms. In the case of something happening to Obama, Bill wouldn't be able to become president.

3.) Please provide proof that "a large majority of democrats thought that it was a great idea" for a clinton/Obama ticket.

4.) Putting Clinton on the ticket would mean that ALL of the groups that hate her (gun owners, libertarians, rocketeers, a whole lot of religious groups, etc) would definitely get out the vote.

5.) The other members of the group aren't getting whipped, you are humoring you. I don't mind schooling you, as I'm trying for another confirmed troll-kill. That'll make me an Ace.

6.) The more you spam, the more patterns you show. That gives me more chance to lock on...

Wrenchboy, going for tone

give me lever, and a place to stand...

Don't go away mad, Bubba.

Just go away.

I'd like to say that I'd be happy when Thursday rolls around, as we'll be able to focus more on the speech by the Democratic nominee for President. But It's quite obvious that the TradMed isn't going to give up on the Clinton meme until November 5th. And, should The Clintons succeed in their sabatoge from within, for months following as the postmortem of the Obama campaign is written. So much to look forward to...
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

You are right again!!

"The Clintons succeed in their sabatoge"
SJ,
That is a very valid concern and that is why I wanted to see united ticket.

Bill is still a powerful man in the party and you better hope that he will get on the Obama team.

Now we have to wait until thurday to get a good measure of my concern.
Thanks

Time may heal all wounds, ...

but the way the Clintons treated Obama in the primaries pretty much guaranteed Hillary would not be on the ticket. Biden said some things against Obama too but nothing even close to the vitriol that cam from the Clinton camp. She not only burned bridges, she bombed them and then pissed on them for good measure.

To all the Hillary supporters, "Get over it!" The Democratic nominee is Barack Obama. You can either vote in your own best interest or you can vote for McSame. Period. End of story.


"...religion, in and of itself, ...is neither good nor bad... it is like a knife. When you use a knife for cutting bread, it’s good. If you use that knife to stick into somebody’s guts, it’s bad." - Bishop Desmond Tutu

---To all the Hillary

---To all the Hillary supporters, "Get over it!" --
raf,
Sounds like what republicans shouted back at Gore supporters in 2000.

So you are no concern about the size of her support and what they will do at the convention?

So you represent the change that Obama is promoting?
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 25, 2008 - 11:55am

Sounds like what republicans shouted back at Gore supporters in 2000
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But, see, the thing is: Gore supporters had a legitimate gripe.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Look in the Mirror

"but the way the Clintons treated Obama in the primaries pretty much guaranteed Hillary would not be on the ticket."
raf,
So you want the Clinton supporters to get over their objections in the primary while it is clear that you can't get over your objections in the primary enough to join in a united ticket with Clinton people.

In case you didn't get the memo, I didn't vote for any clinton...in the primaries my vote went to a Man that stood up to GW Bush over the FISA debate.

I just believe that if the Democrats unite that will be very strong.

I am concerned that Obama can't unite his own party then how shallow was that claimed that he could unite that nation in the 2004 convention speech that the corporate media loved.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 12:34pm

I think it's time to change the air in your head.

So

FUB2,
Is there an age limit for posting at this site.
Thanks

Did you not read the ToS when you signed up?

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

Wow bring something to the table Next Time

"Did you not read the ToS when you signed up?"
Non,
They could have CHANGED the rules since I read it the last time.

Right!!!

If you were really an Obama supporter you would have known that!!!

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Republican Play Book
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1)Please attack your opponents with stupid un-supported remarks.
2) Call them Names over and over again!!!
3) repeat steps 1 thru 2 until the horse is DEAD!!!!
4) Return to the RNC for more money and cookies

Thanks

Dudc, you just outed yourself

I can't believe that you just explicitly proved that you are a republican troll.
How stupid do you have to be, to tell your prospective target audience how you intend to use propaganda techniques?

Dude, you aren't even a troll. You're like a troll-wannabe, or a troll-poser.

Get it together!

give me lever, and a place to stand...

By wrenchboyAugust 25, 2008 - 6:17pm

LOL

When you engage them they can't stay in character. Then again I don't like to engage them in case they get paid by the number of responses they get.

f u bush2

1.) trolls rarely can stay in character. That would require study and self-discipline.
2.) Giving this economy, I figure that poor trolls need the trolling job. (It could be they troll, or they starve. I'm a liberal progressive. I don't want to see people starving.)
3.) I like engaging them. With one more confirmed kill, I'll be an ace.

Wrenchboy, going for tone...

give me lever, and a place to stand...

HE GOT HIS DICK SUCKED

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Screw Bill Clinton. It's his fault we are in the fix we're in.

If he hadn't gotton blow jobs in the Oval Office, thereby embarrassing the entire country, George Bush would never have been elected.

Bush didn't win on talent and ability. He won becuase people were voting against Clinton.

The economy was good, the nation had a surplus. But people were embarrassed.

Bill Clinton made the US the laughing stock of the world because he couldn't say no to getting his dick sucked. What a jerk.

He should have crawled away in shame and stayed away. That toad.

Wrong.

Bill Clinton left office with a high approval rating. The Republicans made us a laughing stock: reasonable people in other countries couldn't believe we'd make such a big deal out of something a majority of people do every single day.

Non-Republicans who blame the Clintons just play into the Republican's hand. Stop doing it.

IMO, what Bill Clinton should have said at the time: "Yeah, I got a bj. What's it to you?"

WRONG NUMBER 2

Yea, they do it every day, but not with someone not his wife.

It was embarrassing. What is wrong with setting an example? He needed his dick sucked so bad?

He should have used lube and taken care of it in private. And then the blue dress with the squirt stain. How gross.

It was the only area he was careless

No matter how the g0p tried to spin it otherwise, the remainder of his Presidency was remarkably effective. Witness the budget surplus he left this country with when it came time for him to exit the White House.

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

GOD DID IT!!!!

Unfortunately, a huge portion of the electorate are "conservative Christians" who frown on "bjs", no matter how many they may be getting or giving at Christian "swingers" parties.

Look at Republicans. Newt having an affair at exactly the same time Bill was literally getting caught with his pants down. McCain and his numerous "one nighters". "Wide stance" Larry.

Then you look at the evangelical preachers who were especially outraged. Pastor "oil" Haggard, Swaggert, and the list goes on.

The problem with this country is that Democrats are held to a higher standard. Republicans expect their leaders to be stupid. The code for stupid is, "at least he has experience".

Of course, Republicans believe science is a "religion" so of course, they frown on and are suspicious of any type of "education" unless you came from a "seminary". Everything studied at religious institutions comes out of one book. When the answer is always, "because God did it", things are much more simple.

McCain, 5th from the bottom out of 899 Cadets. Destroyed five jets. People wouldn't take their kid to a stupid doctor, but they would put the safety of the entire country in the hands of someone stupid.

Everyone makes mistakes.

I'd bet there are many married men engaging in bjs with someone other than their wife every single day in this country.

Obviously, there is nothing wrong with setting a good example. Bill Clinton's behavior with Lewinsky was definitely a disappointment. But, that's all it was! A disappointment. I suggest you get over it, just like Hillary and Chelsea Clinton did. They were more affected by it than you.

If there is someone on this thread who has never disappointed their spouse or their child or made a colossal mistake in their job, you are either fairly young or you lie to yourself.

I guess there is a 3rd possibility: you are perfect. In that case, bully for you. But your perfection may be tarnished if you don't allow for and forgive the imperfection of others.

MONICA WASN'T A DUDE!

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Newt was engaged in exactly the same behavior even when pointing at Bill. The point is not that he engaged in such behaviour.

There is even the thought that the reason the Republicans were so angry was because Monica wasn't a dude.

My feeling is that if you run for president, then for God sakes, RESPECT the country. Don't try to "make money" and don't get caught in scandals. The best way not to get caught is to NOT participate. Just respect the country a tiny, little bit.

I doubt if there has been as prickly or easily-offended

group of people as the Clintons and their supporters. Oh, and let's not forget "childish and immature". How else can you describe people who are now offended that Hillary wasn't asked to help Obama pick a VP? Shouldn't Richardson or Kucinich or Edwards or Dodd or Gravel supporters be pissed that they weren't asked too? And are any of them getting speaking time at the convention?

Hillary is not a queen, and Bill is not a king. They are politicians, which means they can win a campaign, but they can also lose one. You learn more about a person when you see how they deal with failure and disappointment than you do when they win. What we have learned about the Clintons is highly disappointing for this former Clinton supporter. Bill will always be one of the best presidents in my book, but I for one hope never to see Hillary or Bill ever return to the White House.

Well said

I think the thing that really soured me on Billary was how she acted like getting back into the White House was her privilege, and hers alone. As if she was entitled to the Presidency. And then, when her campaign started tanking, she acted completely and totally surprised...the possibility had never occurred to her.

What's worse, some of her adherents acted even more surprised and outraged when her campaign tanked, and they started lashing out at anyone and everyone who had any appearance at all of supporting Obama...or anyone else, for that matter. A handful even lashed out at those who DID support Billary, but not vocally (or financially) enough. I know; I work with a couple of those. It wasn't pleasant for a few days.

I hope people are getting used to the idea that Billary LOST, fair and square, and now we need to get behind the person who WON, 100%. Our nation depends on it.

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

I saw one analyst commenting that if Obama loses, then

Hillary should watch out, because Obama supporters will work overtime to make sure she is humiliated in 2012. I hate to see that kind of ridiculous attitude, but then again, I hate seeing that 27% of Hillary supporters are going to vote for McCain. How stupid can people possibly be?

I worked at a dem booth at a fair last weekend, and I learned how stupid they can be. I talked to a guy who said he had never voted. He had to be around 40. He didn't even know who was running for president. I told him that no matter who he supports, he needed to get out and vote because it's better to let voters pick the president than to have the Supreme Court do it. He didn't know that had ever happened! His exact words,"Who was that, Reagan?". I had to tell him about 2000, and how Bush was basically elected by the vote of one person, a Supreme Court justice on a 5-4 vote.

Maybe the old saying "You get the government you deserve" is really true. When you get people who pay almost no attention to the world around them, you get repub presidents.

By Uffdaguy August 25, 2008 - 1:23pm

I dunno that it's going to take Obama losing. She's already earned herself that level of opposition given her recent antics. I think if she wants to avoid humiliation, she ought to be working to regain that support and staunch that opposition by openly and clearly working her ass off for Obama. She cannot risk even the appearance of anything else, lest that opposition multiply.
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

I'd be willing to give her a chance again if she proves that she

is really working to get Obama elected in any way she can. If she does, then 2012 will be a moot point, because Obama will be president. Like they say, respect isn't given, it's earned. She will have to work to earn my respect again.

What?

I read your comment carefully and you are saying that if Obama is not elected, then it is because Clinton didn't really work in every way she could to get him elected.

WTF?

Do you really believe the election hinges on what Hillary Clinton does or does not do?

What she earned was more primary votes

than your candidate. When Obama loses, you people will be run out of the Dem party for your stupidity, Obama will be going back to being a mediocre senator, and Hillary will take over the leadership of the party. The words "I told you so" will be said over and over.

By hufflarry2000August 25, 2008 - 1:49pm

Yes she got a fraction of 1% more votes. They both broke records. And Obama won the nomination.

Anything I missed?

That is what I said

she got more votes. That means that she got as many votes as Obama plus more.

By hufflarry2000August 25, 2008 - 2:00pm

Well I'm glad you got to say that again.

Clinton will release her delegates to vote for Obama
By Jerry Zremski NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Updated: 08/25/08 1:36 PM

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will release her delegates to vote for Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination on Wednesday, in a move aimed at showing support for the presumptive nominee despite lingering resentment toward him among some of her supporters and staff.

Mirror

FUB2,
If Obama released you would you go to Hillary if the DNC strong armed the Superdelegates to give the nomination to Hillary.

They may be released ....but will they go?

If Hillary's delegates are not the Hillbot you claim, then I have a few names from AAR Bloggers that I can submit to the Obama camp that will beat their heads if they don't move in into the Obama stall.

Real attack dogs!!!
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By KvnRJohnso407August 25, 2008 - 5:40pm

I'm not interested in these hypotheticals.

In case of the hill-bots screwing up the election

1.) None of the democrats that I know will vote for hillary in 2012.
2.) All of the folks I know of in New York GMA will be voting for some other choice for hte senate.
3.) All of the innovators I'm acquainted with will be merrily burning their lab notes. (We've sort of got a package deal in mind: No Democratic president, no Tom Swift inventions. Your choice.)
4.) A large number of democrats that I know of have already got plans to move their money outside the country.

Hill-bots, how much do you want to gamble?

give me lever, and a place to stand...

Wow

"1.) None of the democrats that I know will vote for hillary in 2012."
Wrench,
If you read my many post, I said hillary is finished and had no chance of getting the nomination in 2012.

You are really a newbie....

I will disregard the rest of your stuff.
Thanks

That's ironic... Translated

That's ironic...

Translated from troll-speak: "He's using facts and logic!!! NO Fair!"

May I call a whambulance for you?

give me lever, and a place to stand...

By hufflarry2000August 25, 2008 - 2:00pm

She could put all those votes in a paper bag with handles & it still wouldn't change the fact that she'll never be president.

Spanks

By Guy FawkesAugust 25, 2008 - 2:02pm

It's just his favorite piece of worthless trivia.

When she turns her delegates over to Obama on Wednesday

...will you finally take the hint?

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

By hufflarry2000 August 25, 2008 - 1:49pm

Thanks, Kvn.
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

What she earned was FEWER delegates than Obama

If Hillary Clinton is the best that you "democrats" have to offer, I will gladly leave the party, along with the 50% of dem voters who chose Obama. We can have a party then that cares more about people than corporations. Of course, it would be easier if Hillary supporters would simply leave and join the repub party, since you share so many of the same views and policies. Word is that Hillary will be announced as McCain's VP next week!

The truth is that Obama and Hillary

are about the same on the issues. But you dont care about truth, you care about keeping up the Hillary hate. You Obamacons just cant stop, you cant control yourselves. You people are responsible for the coming Obama loss, no one else.

By hufflarry2000August 25, 2008 - 2:05pm

Try to think about the issues and not about the fact your candidate lost.

By hufflarry2000August 25, 2008 - 1:49pm

Paper bags with handles.

Spanks

Hey Huffliar, it appears I

Hey Huffliar, it appears I might owe you an apology. You appear to be the only one of these lefty losers that actually has a clue. Hillary would have been a much stronger candidate than Obama. And not only that, but Obama would be a much stronger candidate with her by his side. Now it all but seals a Republican victory even if the Republican is one of the worst candidates in history. I'm not sure that if the Clintons were to get an actual count at the convention, that Hillary wouldn't get more delegates now that Florida and Michigan are giving full shares. Can't wait for the fireworks to start.

You are one smart cracker

smart as a whip.

By beenexposedasaracist August 25, 2008 - 2:20pm

Oh, looky. bebe was won over by huff's desire to placate the little cracker. How sweet.

Happy days with your new friends, huff.
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--F