Hamdan Guilty After Judge Issues Improper Instructions
The first Gitmo military panel has completed its work and unsurprisingly declared Osama bin Laden's driver-cum-bodyguard to be guilty of terrorism but the odious smell of a Soviet-style show-trial continues to stink like a perch left on the porch overnight, especially after the presiding judge admitted today that he might not quite have gotten his legal instructions exactly right.
As the military panel at the trial of a former driver for Osama bin Laden deliberated for a full day Tuesday without reaching a verdict, the presiding military judge said he might have given the members incorrect legal instructions about how the international law of war is to be applied here.
“I may well have instructed the members erroneously,” said the judge, Capt. Keith J. Allred of the Navy, during one of several sessions called outside the hearing of the six-member panel of senior military officers who are considering war-crimes charges against the driver, Salim Hamdan.
No biggie. I'm sure he didn't blow anything important, right? It was probably some little technical detail.
One reason the government has given for prosecuting Guantánamo detainees as war criminals is that terrorist attacks by Al Qaeda violate the international rules of war. Those rules require, for example, that armed forces wear recognizable uniforms and carry firearms openly.
But prosecutors said Tuesday that the judge had defined “murder in violation of the law of war” incorrectly. He did not tell the panel that it would be a violation of the law of war for an unlawful combatant, like a member of Al Qaeda, to kill a member of an opposing military service during combat.
The defense said that such a killing might be an ordinary crime that could be prosecuted in American courts and that it was not a war crime for an enemy to kill a soldier in combat.
But the prosecutors argued that an unlawful combatant, like a Qaeda fighter without a military uniform, violates the law of war by killing in combat. While Judge Allred’s ruling is not binding on other military commission judges, it could influence them, and both sides cited legal precedents about the issue that could be critical to this case and others here. Judge Allred said he was not certain of the answer.
A prosecutor, Clayton Trivett, said the judge’s interpretation could limit the prosecution’s options in other cases here. He noted that prosecutors had said they might charge as many as 80 detainees with war crimes in the military commissions at Guantánamo.
“The concern for the prosecution,” Mr. Trivet said, “is that the law be right.”
(emphasis added)
Oh, you mean Judge Allred left out the Bush rationale for trying the defendants in a military court instead of a civilian one? Oh, dear. That is difficult.
Not that they proved Hamdan killed anybody in combat, or even that he was charged with such a crime. He wasn't. He was charged with conspiracy and the military equivalent of aiding-and-abetting. But even at that low level, they still felt he deserved to be condemned. As a terrorist. The bizarre leading the unbelievable just to save Bush some embarrassment.
So if the definition is the basis of the conviction, it could affect many of the 80+ show-trials left to go, and it almost certainly led to the panel's split decision.
A panel of six military officers convicted a former driver for Osama bin Laden of a war crime Wednesday, completing the first military commission trial here and the first conducted by the United States since the end of World War II.
But the commission acquitted the former driver, Salim Ahmed Hamdan, of a conspiracy charge, arguably the more serious of two charges he faced. His conviction came on a separate but lesser charge of providing material support for terrorism.
"Material support". That's driving a car to you and me. He was a fucking chauffer. He was just the wrong guy's fucking chauffer.
He has yet to be sentenced on the conviction. If there's going to be any acknowledgement that these legally bogus kangaroo courts might be shameful, it will come then.
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Anywhere else in the world there'd be a word in use...
..."mistrial."
But in this RepubliCANT directed-verdict arena ("The jury may return any verdict the evidence supports, as long as that verdict is guilty"), the guy's going to get strung up before Amnesty International can finish putting their newest video together, or even before the next ObL tape "surfaces" at the al-Jazeera studios (courtesy an unnamed Blackwater driver).
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manAugust 6, 2008 - 1:42pmIMO
The next OBL video will come courtesy of the Broadcasting Service of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, but show up first on Al-Jazeera. He will be in a comfortable, air-conditioned suite, and wearing gold robes. If not, he will be in remarkable health in front of some unidentifiable mountains (in Saudi Arabia). It will come at the direct request of the Bush regime, preferably in late September or in October.
Osama Bin Laden has been in Saudi Arabia for many years now.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouAugust 6, 2008 - 7:07pmAnd he will say...
"Thanks to my Brother in Jihad, Barack!"
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
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By LiberalIconoclastAugust 6, 2008 - 9:45pmYou can count on an OBL video in October.
But it will be perfectly legitimate.
Remember that Bin Laden publically stated, years ago, that his goal was to foment a war between the West and the Islamic world that would slowly bleed America dry, economically, militarily and spiritually.
Bush played right into his hand.
Of course Bin Laden will put out a boogy-man video in October to boost McCain!
A McCain presidency strengthens Bin Laden's hand... An Oabma presidency weakens it.
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By A GAugust 7, 2008 - 8:42amWhile I don't fault the military court for doing its job ...
I fault Dumbya & Co. for making such a mockery of it, and, by extension, our system of justice. The rules they put in place would be laughed out of a regular courtroom. No wonder the judge couldn't get it right, no wonder prosecutors couldn't get it right. And the defense attorney? Poor bastard could have just put a cardboard cut-out of himself at the defense table and it would have been just as effective. Monkey Boy's 'rules' pretty much shuts any defense down.
Ultimately, the guy was convicted for ... being a driver. Not convicted on ANY terror charges ... just for being a fucking driver.
This, IMO, is in no way, shape or form, a victory for the 'war on terrah'. Seven fucking years later, Monkey Boy couldn't even get the guy convicted on terror charges ... the trial was a fucking JOKE.
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By Pookie2112August 7, 2008 - 8:57amAn officer and a gentleman.
Apparently Dearth Cheeney and President Cowboy-Hat grossly overestimated the willingness of our commisioned officers to sell their souls.
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By A GAugust 7, 2008 - 9:49am"Over"estimated is a mild understatement.
They did the same thing to Padilla - and we see how well that farce of a trial went. So, that's TWO convictions they've gotten ... and neither for what they charged them for, either.
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By Pookie2112August 7, 2008 - 10:26amAll I can think of
is how hard the world would have laughed at us if we had trotted out Hitler's chauffeur in Nuremburg.
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By gt6August 7, 2008 - 11:03amWe chauffeurs have been given immunity for any crimes that may
have been committed by our passengers. I read about it in the oh-so-popular "International Criminal Court at The Hague" monthly!
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By UffdaguyAugust 7, 2008 - 11:40amAWESOME post, Suave!!!!
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin
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By Pookie2112August 7, 2008 - 11:42amIt was just something I dashed off while checking
my tire pressure. Now I have to go see if they've struck oil in my swimming pool yet. Crash McSame said he KNEW there was oil offshore, so I let Exxon/Mobil put a rig in the pool to get me some of that black gold. I expect to be filthy rich by dinner tonight, and a repub by this time tomorrow! LOL
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By UffdaguyAugust 7, 2008 - 11:49amLOL - Any plans on sharing your new-found wealth,
T. Boone Pickens, Jr.??
Amazing! Well, if McCrash positively KNOWS where the oil is, maybe he KNOWS where the WMD's are!!!!!!!!!
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George Carlin
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By Pookie2112August 7, 2008 - 11:56amWell, if I become a repub, you know that sharing is
out of the question----socialism, haven't you heard? But, the fact is that I would be willing to share with a certain maid.......
Crash may say he knows where the oil is, but I doubt if he knows where the WMD are, and I know he can't find his ass using both of his hands!
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By UffdaguyAugust 7, 2008 - 12:05pmLOL - Right back at ya, Suave!
Can his hands reach back that far??
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By Pookie2112August 7, 2008 - 12:16pmDon't forget.
Privatize the profits... socialize the losses.
If you you make a fortune, pocket it and then bill the taxpayers for "R&D" costs.
If you LOSE a fortune, just bill the taxpayers for ALL of it.
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By A GAugust 7, 2008 - 12:56pmSmall Fry.
Can you imagine if The Nuremburg Trials wasted their time prosecuting Adolf Hitler's barber?
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"Is it not true, sir, that HITLER HAD ONE BALL?!"
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By A GAugust 7, 2008 - 9:55amBarber
He should have been prosecuted. MAN! That was one bad haircut!
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By gt6August 7, 2008 - 11:05am